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> <channel><title>Comments on: Mel Gibson&#8217;s traditionalism seems to be feeding his demons</title> <atom:link href="http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/</link> <description>Breaking news and opinion from the online edition of Britain&#039;s leading Catholic newspaper</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:15:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Anonchap</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-21067</link> <dc:creator>Anonchap</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-21067</guid> <description>Mel Gibson is in fact an excellent actor. Many examples could be provided. His performance in the first Lethal Weapon, for instance, is powerful. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel Gibson is in fact an excellent actor. Many examples could be provided. His performance in the first Lethal Weapon, for instance, is powerful.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeffrey C. Johnson</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-20144</link> <dc:creator>Jeffrey C. Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:39:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-20144</guid> <description>Pray for him. Personally, I don&#039;t know the man - but I suspect that after &quot;The Passion&quot; he has begun to very closely examine his life and has found it wanting. Before accepting a Father&#039;s love and forgiveness, a man often feels overwhelmed with his wickedness and experiences &quot;conviction&quot;. Hopefully that &quot;conviction&quot; leads to repentance and reconciliation with God, but often before accepting forgiveness, one lashes out with the self hatred one feels and comes dangerously close to despair (the sin of Judas). Pray that he succumbs to the Father&#039;s Holy Will.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pray for him. Personally, I don&#8217;t know the man &#8211; but I suspect that after &#8220;The Passion&#8221; he has begun to very closely examine his life and has found it wanting. Before accepting a Father&#8217;s love and forgiveness, a man often feels overwhelmed with his wickedness and experiences &#8220;conviction&#8221;. Hopefully that &#8220;conviction&#8221; leads to repentance and reconciliation with God, but often before accepting forgiveness, one lashes out with the self hatred one feels and comes dangerously close to despair (the sin of Judas). Pray that he succumbs to the Father&#8217;s Holy Will.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: s graham</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-17145</link> <dc:creator>s graham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-17145</guid> <description>I was in Scotland in September, and found it to be a very holy place.I would love to know what your experience was like and how your conversion unfolded..</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Scotland in September, and found it to be a very holy place.I would love to know what your experience was like and how your conversion unfolded..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Trent</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-16200</link> <dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:24:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-16200</guid> <description>You comment my be true about sedevacantists, but what about we traditional Catholics that have been ex-communicated because we hold strong to our traditions, as St. Paul has taught us? Are we outside the Church because of it? I am no sedevacantist, but in the eyes of the Modernist hierarchy, I might as well be.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You comment my be true about sedevacantists, but what about we traditional Catholics that have been ex-communicated because we hold strong to our traditions, as St. Paul has taught us? Are we outside the Church because of it? I am no sedevacantist, but in the eyes of the Modernist hierarchy, I might as well be.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronkpken</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-15447</link> <dc:creator>Ronkpken</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:51:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-15447</guid> <description>NO. When the meaning is &quot;of a line which does not bend&quot;, the correct spelling is &quot;straight&quot;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO. When the meaning is &#8220;of a line which does not bend&#8221;, the correct spelling is &#8220;straight&#8221;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gina2333</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-13581</link> <dc:creator>Gina2333</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 07:17:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-13581</guid> <description>Katrina:  You R a wise lady... very well said here.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katrina:  You R a wise lady&#8230; very well said here&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hieronymus Illinensis</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-12544</link> <dc:creator>Hieronymus Illinensis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:48:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-12544</guid> <description>(1) Loup Garou didn&#039;t actually wish Mr. Gibson to Hell, but stated where, objectively, he will go if he does not repent of his sins and seek absolution from the Church. However, Loup Garou should have added that conditional clause.
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&lt;br&gt;(2) The mercy of God is indeed without end, but so is His respect for human free will. Think of a sinner (let&#039;s call him Hieronymus). If Hieronymus prefers holding on to his own sins to coming into the presence of God—which would require him to experience the pain and horror of seeing his own sins as God sees them, and admitting that they are his—God will not compel Hieronymus to enter Heaven against his will. Hieronymus can remain outside forever if he chooses, even though his pain of loss will be so great that, craving distraction from it, he will inflict on himself the full measure of the pain of sense (think of the young people today who feel such pain in their souls that they cut themselves for relief of it)—dreading the pain of God&#039;s healing fire more.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) Loup Garou didn&#39;t actually wish Mr. Gibson to Hell, but stated where, objectively, he will go if he does not repent of his sins and seek absolution from the Church. However, Loup Garou should have added that conditional clause.</p><p>(2) The mercy of God is indeed without end, but so is His respect for human free will. Think of a sinner (let&#39;s call him Hieronymus). If Hieronymus prefers holding on to his own sins to coming into the presence of God—which would require him to experience the pain and horror of seeing his own sins as God sees them, and admitting that they are his—God will not compel Hieronymus to enter Heaven against his will. Hieronymus can remain outside forever if he chooses, even though his pain of loss will be so great that, craving distraction from it, he will inflict on himself the full measure of the pain of sense (think of the young people today who feel such pain in their souls that they cut themselves for relief of it)—dreading the pain of God&#39;s healing fire more.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Loyal to the Magisterium</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-11317</link> <dc:creator>Loyal to the Magisterium</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 05:43:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-11317</guid> <description>I&#039;m not into bashing people and gossiping about celebraties like that. My bag of sins weigh heavier than mels. Please Catholic herald leave the Gossip to silly papers such as the Irish Sun amongst many. Your a Catholic newspaper not a secular one, act like it.
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loyaltothemagisterium.wordpress.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.loyaltothemagisterium.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not into bashing people and gossiping about celebraties like that. My bag of sins weigh heavier than mels. Please Catholic herald leave the Gossip to silly papers such as the Irish Sun amongst many. Your a Catholic newspaper not a secular one, act like it.</p><p><a
href="http://www.loyaltothemagisterium.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.loyaltothemagisterium.wordpress.com</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dr07</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-10247</link> <dc:creator>Dr07</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-10247</guid> <description>Everything Mel is not is protected by law or guilt in America.  That is where Satan resides: in bigotry (Race, Religon, Gender, etc.)  Heaven forbid Mel be enraged/indignant when a single mother tries to, if true, extort money from him because she signed a Pre-nuptual agreement.
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&lt;br&gt;Where are critics going to draw the line between when anger becomes indignation?
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&lt;br&gt;Consider the money and prestigue that roll into the critics receive while appearing on special Larry King panels, not to mention that the producers that are in one of the protected groups can exert on Mel to &quot;fall in line&quot;  Just because the objects of Mel&#039;s raging are protected, does not mean they memebers of this protected group are not abusing Mel and hiding when Mel calls them out on the carpet.
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&lt;br&gt;The rage you see could as easily be the manifestation from abuse that Mel experienced for decades.  You do not know who &quot;taught Mel to hate&quot;.  Therein lies the Satan in us all, slothfull indifference to the source of Mel&#039;s angst.
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&lt;br&gt;I know what an Assie would do, what would someone from Never-Never (Eng)land do?  How would you feel?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything Mel is not is protected by law or guilt in America.  That is where Satan resides: in bigotry (Race, Religon, Gender, etc.)  Heaven forbid Mel be enraged/indignant when a single mother tries to, if true, extort money from him because she signed a Pre-nuptual agreement.</p><p>Where are critics going to draw the line between when anger becomes indignation?</p><p>Consider the money and prestigue that roll into the critics receive while appearing on special Larry King panels, not to mention that the producers that are in one of the protected groups can exert on Mel to &#8220;fall in line&#8221;  Just because the objects of Mel&#39;s raging are protected, does not mean they memebers of this protected group are not abusing Mel and hiding when Mel calls them out on the carpet.</p><p>The rage you see could as easily be the manifestation from abuse that Mel experienced for decades.  You do not know who &#8220;taught Mel to hate&#8221;.  Therein lies the Satan in us all, slothfull indifference to the source of Mel&#39;s angst.</p><p>I know what an Assie would do, what would someone from Never-Never (Eng)land do?  How would you feel?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dr07</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/12/mel-gibsons-traditionalism-seems-to-be-feeding-his-demons/comment-page-1/#comment-9933</link> <dc:creator>Dr07</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:08:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=2865#comment-9933</guid> <description>You are lucky across the pond, there has never been a Catholic attacked for being Catholic. Otherwise, you would think twice about condemning Mel&#039;s actions, and if you had been attacked, I think you would at minimum hear his side of the stories.  Without listening to Mel’s side of the story, these remarks are under the definition bigot.
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&lt;br&gt;Let me rephrase it, his actions appear like anger, but it could as easily be indignation.  Have you Brits ever heard the term, “Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.”  American law protects citizens because of race, religion and gender, etc.  Consider that in America, everything Mel is, is not protected.  Anyone can in these protected groups can discriminate against Mel; and, if Mel complains the offender can hide behind these protections and the clan comes out to protect the offender.  It makes it a lot easier to humiliate Mel as was done on Friday.  If he responds, we look at his actions as evil, and disregard the history behind his actions.  I am sure none of you have experienced this.
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&lt;br&gt;Read carefully the first reading from last Sunday, “The lord hears the cry of the poor” but he does not yield unjustly to the poor over a victim that is not poor.  Why does the lowly have to be heard by the Lord, before we act on their behalf and hear/discover their side of the story?
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&lt;br&gt;You have heard the tapes, but did you “listen” to the tapes.  Listen to the “fear” in Ms Grigorieva voice as she pounds Mel’s manhood.  Her voice is provocative, with not an ounce of fear.  And, consider that every word she said has a dollar sign attached to it.
&lt;br&gt;Further, did you know that a couple years ago a mile of public beach in front of his house was confiscated for religious purposes for which he was not invited?
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&lt;br&gt;A comment was made, “Mel was taught to hate.”  Has anyone asked, “Mel, who taught you to hate?”
&lt;br&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are lucky across the pond, there has never been a Catholic attacked for being Catholic. Otherwise, you would think twice about condemning Mel&#39;s actions, and if you had been attacked, I think you would at minimum hear his side of the stories.  Without listening to Mel’s side of the story, these remarks are under the definition bigot.</p><p>Let me rephrase it, his actions appear like anger, but it could as easily be indignation.  Have you Brits ever heard the term, “Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.”  American law protects citizens because of race, religion and gender, etc.  Consider that in America, everything Mel is, is not protected.  Anyone can in these protected groups can discriminate against Mel; and, if Mel complains the offender can hide behind these protections and the clan comes out to protect the offender.  It makes it a lot easier to humiliate Mel as was done on Friday.  If he responds, we look at his actions as evil, and disregard the history behind his actions.  I am sure none of you have experienced this.</p><p>Read carefully the first reading from last Sunday, “The lord hears the cry of the poor” but he does not yield unjustly to the poor over a victim that is not poor.  Why does the lowly have to be heard by the Lord, before we act on their behalf and hear/discover their side of the story?</p><p>You have heard the tapes, but did you “listen” to the tapes.  Listen to the “fear” in Ms Grigorieva voice as she pounds Mel’s manhood.  Her voice is provocative, with not an ounce of fear.  And, consider that every word she said has a dollar sign attached to it.<br
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/>Further, did you know that a couple years ago a mile of public beach in front of his house was confiscated for religious purposes for which he was not invited?</p><p>A comment was made, “Mel was taught to hate.”  Has anyone asked, “Mel, who taught you to hate?”<br
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