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> <channel><title>Comments on: Does the Pope really agree with Bishop Kieran Conry?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/</link> <description>Breaking news and opinion from the online edition of Britain&#039;s leading Catholic newspaper</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:28:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Streatham Cleric</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-51652</link> <dc:creator>Streatham Cleric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-51652</guid> <description>God knows how this man was created a Bishop!
He does not like wearing his purple skull cap - evident in the photo above with the Supreme Pontiff and if you review the Papal Mass at Westminster footage he was not wearing one there as well!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God knows how this man was created a Bishop!<br
/> He does not like wearing his purple skull cap &#8211; evident in the photo above with the Supreme Pontiff and if you review the Papal Mass at Westminster footage he was not wearing one there as well!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bart_0117</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-51610</link> <dc:creator>Bart_0117</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:26:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-51610</guid> <description>I absolutely loathe this widespread myth that one must speak the language of the youths in order to evangelise them. Those who spread such myth are usually from the generations above who showed us no example as to how to lead a life in accordance with the Church&#039;s teachings, showed us no sound liturgy where the lay faithful and the Celebrant alike were entirely devoted to AMDG.Contrary to common beliefs, the young ARE capable of reasoning and debating and eventually accepting Church Doctrine. Contrary to common beliefs, the young DO see the beauty of the EF. Contrary to common beliefs, NOT all the young are so keen on guitars and drums as they would like us to believe.The young are impressionable but not stupid. We like it when Fathers preach from the pulpit about the only Truth that matters. We like it when Fathers take the Eucharist seriously; especially when they lock their fingers for Elevations.Oh by the way, I am not targeting any specific groups or individuals.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely loathe this widespread myth that one must speak the language of the youths in order to evangelise them. Those who spread such myth are usually from the generations above who showed us no example as to how to lead a life in accordance with the Church&#8217;s teachings, showed us no sound liturgy where the lay faithful and the Celebrant alike were entirely devoted to AMDG.</p><p>Contrary to common beliefs, the young ARE capable of reasoning and debating and eventually accepting Church Doctrine. Contrary to common beliefs, the young DO see the beauty of the EF. Contrary to common beliefs, NOT all the young are so keen on guitars and drums as they would like us to believe.</p><p>The young are impressionable but not stupid. We like it when Fathers preach from the pulpit about the only Truth that matters. We like it when Fathers take the Eucharist seriously; especially when they lock their fingers for Elevations.</p><p>Oh by the way, I am not targeting any specific groups or individuals.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PCH</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-11700</link> <dc:creator>PCH</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:16:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-11700</guid> <description>John, I feel I must correct you. The Hitler Youth did not produce a Pope. Joseph Ratzinger( now Pope Benedict XVI) was forced to join the Hitler Youth but did everything in his power to evade action other than to desert when he got the opportunity and who was already chosen for his Pontificate before he was born. Also, you are so right that we should not give up on the youth as they have responded to the call of Venerable John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI so much because of the World Youth Days and those who have not also have the opportunity to be &#039;a work in progress - it is a matter of helping them to find the Truth through the new evangelisation.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I feel I must correct you. The Hitler Youth did not produce a Pope. Joseph Ratzinger( now Pope Benedict XVI) was forced to join the Hitler Youth but did everything in his power to evade action other than to desert when he got the opportunity and who was already chosen for his Pontificate before he was born. Also, you are so right that we should not give up on the youth as they have responded to the call of Venerable John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI so much because of the World Youth Days and those who have not also have the opportunity to be &#39;a work in progress &#8211; it is a matter of helping them to find the Truth through the new evangelisation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MJCarroll</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-7938</link> <dc:creator>MJCarroll</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:05:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-7938</guid> <description>To be honest I have just come back to this post and like to think I will always admit when I got it wrong. I think I got the &#039;wrong end of the stick&#039; and coming back to the article I can see that there is a difference between the Pope&#039;s view &amp; Bishop Conry&#039;s. I must have been having &#039;one of those days&#039;. My apologies.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I have just come back to this post and like to think I will always admit when I got it wrong. I think I got the &#39;wrong end of the stick&#39; and coming back to the article I can see that there is a difference between the Pope&#39;s view &amp; Bishop Conry&#39;s. I must have been having &#39;one of those days&#39;. My apologies.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MJCarroll</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-7939</link> <dc:creator>MJCarroll</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:00:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-7939</guid> <description>Hi, I&#039;m a month late on this reply but just thought I&#039;d say that I actually agree with you. A lot of parish youth workers do actually dilute the teaching. They obviously do it because they think they will turn the kids off Catholicism.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, the truth is it works best when the Youth Workers do not pull their punches and lay the Truth  down on the line. I do not know what the local Youth 2000 groups are like but when it comes to the big national events then it is &#039;full on&#039; teaching and I have witnessed the fact that the &#039;tough issues&#039; are dealt with head on and the teenagers respond to this. One of the most noticeable consequences of this it the large attendance at confession which was a shock when I saw it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We see the same effect in British convents where the most successful at gaining vocations are the more traditional, hard line orders that have no problem attracting younger Sisters. The less traditional convents are struggling.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So despite what I said - I whole heartedly agree with you.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#39;m a month late on this reply but just thought I&#39;d say that I actually agree with you. A lot of parish youth workers do actually dilute the teaching. They obviously do it because they think they will turn the kids off Catholicism.</p><p>However, the truth is it works best when the Youth Workers do not pull their punches and lay the Truth  down on the line. I do not know what the local Youth 2000 groups are like but when it comes to the big national events then it is &#39;full on&#39; teaching and I have witnessed the fact that the &#39;tough issues&#39; are dealt with head on and the teenagers respond to this. One of the most noticeable consequences of this it the large attendance at confession which was a shock when I saw it.</p><p>We see the same effect in British convents where the most successful at gaining vocations are the more traditional, hard line orders that have no problem attracting younger Sisters. The less traditional convents are struggling.</p><p>So despite what I said &#8211; I whole heartedly agree with you.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hoka</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-5042</link> <dc:creator>Hoka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-5042</guid> <description>So long as you&#039;ve got &quot;A Parish Dedicated to Fairtrade&quot; across the banner of your weekly bulletin, you&#039;re OK! And then the parish priest wonders why he sits in the Confessional all alone every Saturday morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So long as you&#39;ve got &#8220;A Parish Dedicated to Fairtrade&#8221; across the banner of your weekly bulletin, you&#39;re OK! And then the parish priest wonders why he sits in the Confessional all alone every Saturday morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: thomaspj</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-2854</link> <dc:creator>thomaspj</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-2854</guid> <description>Bishop Kieran Conry gives Hope to a Church that is “falling away like rust” in the words of a  Priest  friend of mine  who exercised his ministry in Europe for about 25 years or so. We need Prophets, Apostles, Sons and Daughters of God to make the Church relevant  in the modern world and  not just ‘Priests’ and ‘Bishops’. Jesus Made his 12 Apostles, not just Priests. And did he make Bishops at all? Reducing it to mere priesthood or Bishophood is as good as doing away with Jesus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did not  Jesus say, “will there be faith left on earth” when the Son of Man comes?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bishop Kieran Conry gives Hope to a Church that is “falling away like rust” in the words of a  Priest  friend of mine  who exercised his ministry in Europe for about 25 years or so. We need Prophets, Apostles, Sons and Daughters of God to make the Church relevant  in the modern world and  not just ‘Priests’ and ‘Bishops’. Jesus Made his 12 Apostles, not just Priests. And did he make Bishops at all? Reducing it to mere priesthood or Bishophood is as good as doing away with Jesus.</p><p>Did not  Jesus say, “will there be faith left on earth” when the Son of Man comes?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: john grosvenor</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-1879</link> <dc:creator>john grosvenor</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-1879</guid> <description>We should&#039;nt give up on yoof too quickly, however bad the situation may seem, look at how bad Hitler yoof looked and yet they produced a pope</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should&#39;nt give up on yoof too quickly, however bad the situation may seem, look at how bad Hitler yoof looked and yet they produced a pope</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: LiberalTraditionalist</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-1692</link> <dc:creator>LiberalTraditionalist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 02:31:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-1692</guid> <description>I’d love to take you up on the Walsingham offer; however, I’d probably not get in due to their “Door Policy.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can speak from experience as a Father of three teenagers who were educated in A&amp;B schools and who worshipped in A&amp;B parishes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From my standpoint, the churches in A&amp;B are too trendy for their liking and school chaplaincy isn’t very well regarded by them and their friends. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A&amp;B and many other dioceses have lost several generations and, despite the merits of Youth Ministry, the Church continues to lose young people. Those adults who run our parishes these days just don’t get it; so why do they seek to dilute the church’s message in a vain attempt at niche marketing? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What they&#039;ve been doing for the past 40 years hasn&#039;t worked.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’d love to take you up on the Walsingham offer; however, I’d probably not get in due to their “Door Policy.”</p><p>I can speak from experience as a Father of three teenagers who were educated in A&#038;B schools and who worshipped in A&#038;B parishes.</p><p>From my standpoint, the churches in A&#038;B are too trendy for their liking and school chaplaincy isn’t very well regarded by them and their friends.</p><p>A&#038;B and many other dioceses have lost several generations and, despite the merits of Youth Ministry, the Church continues to lose young people. Those adults who run our parishes these days just don’t get it; so why do they seek to dilute the church’s message in a vain attempt at niche marketing?</p><p>What they&#39;ve been doing for the past 40 years hasn&#39;t worked.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: W Oddie</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/23/does-the-pope-really-agree-with-bishop-conry/comment-page-1/#comment-1688</link> <dc:creator>W Oddie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:32:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3525#comment-1688</guid> <description>I think I understood exactly what Bishop Conry was saying. The idea that &#039;the Pope and Bishop Conry are &#039;quite literally singing from the same hymn sheet&#039; is ludicrous.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I understood exactly what Bishop Conry was saying. The idea that &#39;the Pope and Bishop Conry are &#39;quite literally singing from the same hymn sheet&#39; is ludicrous.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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