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> <channel><title>Comments on: Let’s stop hissing and spitting over the Pope’s visit</title> <atom:link href="http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/</link> <description>Breaking news and opinion from the online edition of Britain&#039;s leading Catholic newspaper</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:15:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Gutter Guard Reviews</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-5204</link> <dc:creator>Gutter Guard Reviews</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-5204</guid> <description>This is cool! And so interested! Are u have more posts like this? Plese tell me, thanks&lt;br&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool! And so interested! Are u have more posts like this? Plese tell me, thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter Henshall</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3153</link> <dc:creator>Peter Henshall</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:22:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-3153</guid> <description>Why should I as a Londoner spend my taxes on security for the Holy Supporter of Paedophiles? I note that his Unholiness has refused to accept the resignation of two Irish Catholic leaders who were deeply complicit in covering up  the abuse of children. As Christ said, it would be better if a millstone be put round their necks and they were thrown into the deep.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should I as a Londoner spend my taxes on security for the Holy Supporter of Paedophiles? I note that his Unholiness has refused to accept the resignation of two Irish Catholic leaders who were deeply complicit in covering up  the abuse of children. As Christ said, it would be better if a millstone be put round their necks and they were thrown into the deep.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dorothy Cummings McLean</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-3025</link> <dc:creator>Dorothy Cummings McLean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:53:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-3025</guid> <description>And just so you know, the rest of the world is watching, too: &lt;a href=&quot;http://catholicregister.org/dorothy-cummings-mclean/media-storms-cloud-papal-visit-to-britain&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://catholicregister.org/dorothy-cummings-mc...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just so you know, the rest of the world is watching, too: <a
href="http://catholicregister.org/dorothy-cummings-mclean/media-storms-cloud-papal-visit-to-britain" rel="nofollow">http://catholicregister.org/dorothy-cummings-mc&#8230;</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: comment</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-2987</link> <dc:creator>comment</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-2987</guid> <description>&#039;Traditioanal Catholics (the legal variaty)&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Catholic variety are the only &#039;legal variety&#039;, by capitalising the T there I think you may just have started your own religion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#39;Traditioanal Catholics (the legal variaty)&#39;</p><p>The Catholic variety are the only &#39;legal variety&#39;, by capitalising the T there I think you may just have started your own religion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Heartbeatl</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-2252</link> <dc:creator>Heartbeatl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:50:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-2252</guid> <description>Are you in the real world? Where shall I bstart to provide the evidence? How about the sex education policy, the abuse, the gay agenda, abortion, child abuse cover ups, need I go on?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you in the real world? Where shall I bstart to provide the evidence? How about the sex education policy, the abuse, the gay agenda, abortion, child abuse cover ups, need I go on?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Brendan</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-2144</link> <dc:creator>John Brendan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:53:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-2144</guid> <description>Hi Stuart,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like you climbed on your soap box.&lt;br&gt;Why don&#039;t you ask AB Nichols what he said to these men?&lt;br&gt;Would the Bishops cover up - well just look at the figures for abuse and gay priests and just look at the sex education policy and AB&#039;s statements promoting contraception!! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While you are at it. Get AB Nichols to confirm that he will allow B16 to publicly speak out to:&lt;br&gt;Defend Marriage as between a man and a Woman and not civil partnerships; That abortion is killing and the targeting of the pre implanted embryo is against Catholic teaching ; That the government&#039;s sex education policy will no longer be pushed in Catholic schools and that Parents are the primary teachers and protectors of their children; And gay priests, bishops and cardinals must come out and get out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meanwhile you just keep onside, keep your head down and do what the churchmen tell you - there&#039;s a big job at the end of it. Don&#039;t get on the wrong side of them or even attempt to question their self ordained superior intellect or political ambition - they will squash you like a fly.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stuart,</p><p>Looks like you climbed on your soap box.<br
/>Why don&#39;t you ask AB Nichols what he said to these men?<br
/>Would the Bishops cover up &#8211; well just look at the figures for abuse and gay priests and just look at the sex education policy and AB&#39;s statements promoting contraception!!</p><p>While you are at it. Get AB Nichols to confirm that he will allow B16 to publicly speak out to:<br
/>Defend Marriage as between a man and a Woman and not civil partnerships; That abortion is killing and the targeting of the pre implanted embryo is against Catholic teaching ; That the government&#39;s sex education policy will no longer be pushed in Catholic schools and that Parents are the primary teachers and protectors of their children; And gay priests, bishops and cardinals must come out and get out.</p><p>Meanwhile you just keep onside, keep your head down and do what the churchmen tell you &#8211; there&#39;s a big job at the end of it. Don&#39;t get on the wrong side of them or even attempt to question their self ordained superior intellect or political ambition &#8211; they will squash you like a fly.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Brendan</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-2145</link> <dc:creator>John Brendan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:38:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-2145</guid> <description>Wake up Mary.&lt;br&gt;Three good men were singled out simply because they uphold Catholic teaching (and I say Catholic with a capital C)&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s wake up time for everyone. The churchmen are interested in only 2 things - power and money.&lt;br&gt;Decent people everywhere will no longer stay silent whilst Church leaders sell out on life, family and marriage.&lt;br&gt;They can leave. I for one will not and I won&#039;t keep quiet about the deception, lies and manipulation.&lt;br&gt;The Birmingham 3 have done no wrong - save that they speak the truth - and the churchmen, like Pilot, wash their hands</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake up Mary.<br
/>Three good men were singled out simply because they uphold Catholic teaching (and I say Catholic with a capital C)<br
/>It&#39;s wake up time for everyone. The churchmen are interested in only 2 things &#8211; power and money.<br
/>Decent people everywhere will no longer stay silent whilst Church leaders sell out on life, family and marriage.<br
/>They can leave. I for one will not and I won&#39;t keep quiet about the deception, lies and manipulation.<br
/>The Birmingham 3 have done no wrong &#8211; save that they speak the truth &#8211; and the churchmen, like Pilot, wash their hands</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew M Brown</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link> <dc:creator>Andrew M Brown</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 18:32:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-2036</guid> <description>A brilliant blog. There&#039;s paranoia in the air. Why do some people just presume, on no evidence, that there&#039;s a conspiracy and that Archbishop Nichols or other Church leaders must have sinister motives?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brilliant blog. There&#39;s paranoia in the air. Why do some people just presume, on no evidence, that there&#39;s a conspiracy and that Archbishop Nichols or other Church leaders must have sinister motives?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jackie Parkes</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-2013</link> <dc:creator>Jackie Parkes</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:13:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-2013</guid> <description>Jackie Parkes said...&lt;br&gt;Dear CF News, James P, bloggers, Oratories, Lay people, clergy etc&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been following the debate regarding 3/4  Oratorian Priests &amp; one brother.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What is very clear is that people have been put in the position of &quot;choosing sides&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is just not &quot;Catholic&quot;. We are all on the &quot;same&quot; side.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fr Felix Selden has spent some considerable time trying to placate &quot; both sides. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t find his tone threatening - just explanatory.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I beseech as an NACF &amp; Oratory supporter &amp; mother of a large family that the battle ceases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please can we be assured that Almighty God will ..restore peace.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I beg you to reconsider any protests or demonstrations before &amp;/or during the Papal Visit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whilst I sympathise with the letter writers &amp; it has been helpful to explain concerns, perhaps just out of&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Christian charity we could leave the subject for now. I know that the 4 are being looked after well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I personally don&#039;t see this as &quot;giving in&quot;. There are the other Fathers suffering as indeed we all are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can we call a &quot;truce&quot; for now &amp; after the Papal Visit perhaps ask for a meeting with Fr Ignatius Harrison?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With regard to my own very public &quot;demise&quot; re my uncharitable blogging about one of the Fathers, I feel I &amp; my family have suffered enough over the last few months..for me deservedly so but not for my children.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However the family are doing fine &amp; me..I can clearly see the Oratory problem. Please note that not all of the 3 are the stalwart pro-lifers but rather like us all fallible. I know this because I worked in my own home with some of the fathers on the sex education programme, so much so that one converted to the Catholic Pontifical viewpoint.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do think it is true to say also from knowing very well that the PP has worked tirelessly on the pro-life campaign.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding the other priests I am very uncomfortable with the descriptions of Fr Gareth Jones&#039;s involvement. Again I know him too &amp; he has nothing but praise for me &amp; my large family &amp; always a kindly father &amp; shepherd. I do not think he deserves such criticism &amp; I do think some of the accusations against him are libelous. All I&#039;ve ever seen him do or hear about doing is saying Mass.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With regard to Fr Paul Chavasse I have still a very high regard for him. Which of us hasn&#039;t had a chaste. intense friendship?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I thank my close friends &amp; family for supporting me through a very painful time of my life. I&#039;m sure the fathers get support but is there any way, we as Catholics can all forgive &amp; move on ready for the joyful beatification?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the B3 have the message we all support them, perhaps we can drop the subject &amp; let the Oratory get on with its&#039; business?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know my CF friends won&#039;t desert me over this post..even if they disagree with me because they know what I&#039;ve been through. I hope the Oratory Parishioners don&#039;t launch an attack on me or call me hypocritical because truly I&#039;m being honest.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I pray for the day when I&#039;m welcomed back to the Oratory as I haven&#039;t really settled away. I hope the priests return ..all of us only if it is God&#039;s will.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I pray through the intercession of St Joseph..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Humbly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mrs Jackie Parkes</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie Parkes said&#8230;<br
/>Dear CF News, James P, bloggers, Oratories, Lay people, clergy etc</p><p>I have been following the debate regarding 3/4  Oratorian Priests &#038; one brother.</p><p>What is very clear is that people have been put in the position of &#8220;choosing sides&#8221;.</p><p>This is just not &#8220;Catholic&#8221;. We are all on the &#8220;same&#8221; side.</p><p>Fr Felix Selden has spent some considerable time trying to placate &#8221; both sides. &#8220;</p><p>I don&#39;t find his tone threatening &#8211; just explanatory.</p><p>I beseech as an NACF &#038; Oratory supporter &#038; mother of a large family that the battle ceases.</p><p>Please can we be assured that Almighty God will ..restore peace.</p><p>I beg you to reconsider any protests or demonstrations before &#038;/or during the Papal Visit.</p><p>Whilst I sympathise with the letter writers &#038; it has been helpful to explain concerns, perhaps just out of</p><p>Christian charity we could leave the subject for now. I know that the 4 are being looked after well.</p><p>I personally don&#39;t see this as &#8220;giving in&#8221;. There are the other Fathers suffering as indeed we all are.</p><p>Can we call a &#8220;truce&#8221; for now &#038; after the Papal Visit perhaps ask for a meeting with Fr Ignatius Harrison?</p><p>With regard to my own very public &#8220;demise&#8221; re my uncharitable blogging about one of the Fathers, I feel I &#038; my family have suffered enough over the last few months..for me deservedly so but not for my children.</p><p>However the family are doing fine &#038; me..I can clearly see the Oratory problem. Please note that not all of the 3 are the stalwart pro-lifers but rather like us all fallible. I know this because I worked in my own home with some of the fathers on the sex education programme, so much so that one converted to the Catholic Pontifical viewpoint.</p><p>I do think it is true to say also from knowing very well that the PP has worked tirelessly on the pro-life campaign.</p><p>Regarding the other priests I am very uncomfortable with the descriptions of Fr Gareth Jones&#39;s involvement. Again I know him too &#038; he has nothing but praise for me &#038; my large family &#038; always a kindly father &#038; shepherd. I do not think he deserves such criticism &#038; I do think some of the accusations against him are libelous. All I&#39;ve ever seen him do or hear about doing is saying Mass.</p><p>With regard to Fr Paul Chavasse I have still a very high regard for him. Which of us hasn&#39;t had a chaste. intense friendship?</p><p>I thank my close friends &#038; family for supporting me through a very painful time of my life. I&#39;m sure the fathers get support but is there any way, we as Catholics can all forgive &#038; move on ready for the joyful beatification?</p><p>I think the B3 have the message we all support them, perhaps we can drop the subject &#038; let the Oratory get on with its&#39; business?</p><p>I know my CF friends won&#39;t desert me over this post..even if they disagree with me because they know what I&#39;ve been through. I hope the Oratory Parishioners don&#39;t launch an attack on me or call me hypocritical because truly I&#39;m being honest.</p><p>I pray for the day when I&#39;m welcomed back to the Oratory as I haven&#39;t really settled away. I hope the priests return ..all of us only if it is God&#39;s will.</p><p>I pray through the intercession of St Joseph..</p><p>Humbly</p><p>Mrs Jackie Parkes</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Booth</title><link>http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2010/07/30/let%e2%80%99s-stop-hissing-and-spitting-over-the-pope%e2%80%99s-visit/comment-page-1/#comment-1995</link> <dc:creator>David Booth</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/?p=3726#comment-1995</guid> <description>I am the first to admit that I know not the reasons why the  &quot;Birmingham 3&quot;  were moved and I also accept that the Catholic Church is thankfully not a democracy but what I do know is that the days when a Bishop could issue a decree and accept no request for an explanation are long over.&lt;br&gt;Remember it was in part this blind obedience to a Bishops orders, with no discussion tolerated, that landed the Catholic Church in a mess over the child abuse scandals with their subsequent cover up&#039;s.&lt;br&gt;Remember be open and honest in all matters and you will not go far wrong, and this applies  even to Prince&#039;s of the Church.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the first to admit that I know not the reasons why the  &#8220;Birmingham 3&#8243;  were moved and I also accept that the Catholic Church is thankfully not a democracy but what I do know is that the days when a Bishop could issue a decree and accept no request for an explanation are long over.<br
/>Remember it was in part this blind obedience to a Bishops orders, with no discussion tolerated, that landed the Catholic Church in a mess over the child abuse scandals with their subsequent cover up&#39;s.<br
/>Remember be open and honest in all matters and you will not go far wrong, and this applies  even to Prince&#39;s of the Church.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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