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Archbishop Martin says Irish-American sentimentalism is incomprehensible: but it’s dangerous too

It hasn’t just been about singing ‘Danny Boy’: in Ulster it’s meant death and destruction

By on Tuesday, 19 April 2011

Archbishop Martin says Irish-American sentimentalism is incomprehensible: but it’s dangerous too

Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, visiting Boston, gave a brave interview in that great, and very Catholic, City last week. Brave, because it contained the following response to the question as to whether or not he felt a connection between Ireland and Boston:

“I have no relatives in the United States of America, which is unusual for an Irishman. My father’s eldest brother’s children all emigrated to Canada . . . So I have no feeling for Irish-Americanism. I don’t understand it . . . American sentimentalism for a country they don’t know, it’s not my dish.” I, as it happens have some direct experience of Boston “Irish-Americanism”.

I had gone there for a discussion with the then Archbishop, Cardinal Law, who was in overall supervising control of the Anglican Use semi-jurisdiction, a kind of forerunner of the Ordinariate (I’ve been involved in all this for years).

The Cardinal introduced me to his secretary, then said, mischievously, Dr Oddie is an Englishman. Mrs so and so is Irish, he explained, as she glowered at me, she doesn’t like the English. Why not, I asked, puzzled: well because of the way you persecuted Irish Catholics, she said. Yes, I said, but they cruelly persecuted English Catholics, too, probably worse; I’m an English Catholic”. This was not a part of Catholic history of which she had been previously aware. She just knew that the Irish are supposed to hate the English.

Nor had she ever been to Ireland, about which she clearly knew nothing at all. I was an undergraduate in Dublin (one of the best decisions of my life) over fifty years ago, long before the vast improvement in Anglo-Irish relations that has taken place in recent years. In all my time there, including an extra postgraduate year, despite my evident Englishness I never once encountered anything but friendliness and courtesy.

From Irish Americans, I have through the years encountered a certain amount of discourtesy. “I’m Irish”, was the explanation, the first time I came across this phenomenon. “Really” I replied, genuinely puzzled, I wasn’t being a smartass; “you sound American to me: what part of Ireland do you come from?” He, too, had never been to Ireland. Neither had his father or his grandfather. But they all called themselves simply “Irish”, tout court.

“I don’t understand it”, said Archbishop Martin last week; “American sentimentalism for a country they don’t know, it’s not my dish”. Well, it’s not my dish, either. It can be entirely harmless, of course (though the real Irish do sometimes regard the phenomenon with puzzlement) and it does help the tourist trade. I remember, one St. Patrick’s day, in the entrance hall of a Dublin hotel, watching in astonishment as a group of Irish Americans, all dressed in bright emerald-green suits, stood drinking pints of bright green beer and smoking huge bright green cigars.

I expressed my amazement to the Hall porter, who simply replied, “Ah, sure, they’re enjoying themselves, and it does no harm”. Well, to be fair, it’s part, I suppose, not just of Irish American sentimentalism, but of a general tendency in the American mind to generate Disneyfied versions of other countries; but I’m not sure (certainly in countries which become over-reliant on the tourist trade) that that does no harm. Americans are a great and creative people. When you’re in America, the very many reasons there are to admire, respect and like them a lot quickly become very evident. That’s not always true outside the US (mind you, foreigners don’t always love the Brits who visit them, and neither do I).

Back to Ireland. Irish-American sentimentalism has been responsible for very much worse things than emerald-green suits: until 9/11 (when the penny finally dropped in the US, that you can’t on your own soil allow open and unimpeded support for terrorism abroad, either) it brought death and destruction as well. Only Libya supplied more financial aid and more weapons and logistical support to the Provisional IRA than Irish Americans did. The Provos were responsible for the deaths of approximately 1,800 people. The dead included around 1,100 members of the British security forces, and about 630 civilians. But it was OK to collect money on the streets of Boston and New York for the funding of all this death and destruction as long as you knew the words and music to “Have you ever been across the sea to Ireland?” (answer, in most cases, no) and “Danny Boy”.

Archbishop Martin again: “Irish-Americanism… it’s not my dish”. Your Grace, many others feel the same, including (quite literally) thousands of widows and orphans in the six counties and throughout the rest of the UK, too. “Ah, sure, they do no harm”. Well, even about that small, peaceable, fuddled group of green beer drinkers, I begin to wonder: had none of them, perhaps walking down Fifth Avenue, ever reached into their wallets for a ten dollar bill, as someone approached them, smiling, with a bright green collecting box?

  • sim

     I wasn’t aware that 60% of the populaton of New England wanted to be Canadian.

  • sim

     “and has yet refused to grant the latter the full autonomy of its border” – This is incorrect.  The UK would be happy to see a united Ireland (why wouldn’t we be?) – if only the majority of people in Northern Ireland could agree that that that’s what they want.  Currently, they don’t.  The government of the Republic respects this. 

  • Davidrobert Large

    Very true if your parents are irish and you grew up in the uk and walked into an irish bar in boston you would be insulted by some thug who knew nothing about ireland but claimed he was irish ,the problem is they are mentally retarded and it is well known in the states that the boston irish are mainly uneducated and ignorant

  • Ericsyeater

    Dude. Relax. It’s just a way to honor your ancestry. Plus the American ” Disney ” culture isn’t appealing to many people. And I’m not sure what politics have to do with it. If you’re saying because of the sntiment that people cause harm. That’s a croc of shit. People have opinions. And I think there’s a lot of people who feel its the right thing to do. Honestly as much as I hate the idea of ANY humans killing each other I often wonder if its possible to resolve great conflict any other way. Im not condoning it. I just know human nature. So you have people in America and they feel strongly about a country they never been too. I would be proud. the African people of Liberia still consider themselves American too. i know this from reading and contact with an old workmate from liberia. most of them have never been here and know only what they see on tv. And their ancestors left to escape slavery and theyre still proud of the connection. personally im not a SNOB

  • Jack

    I am Irish and from Ireland Mr Oddie. So to quote you, don’t you dare accuse me of whatever.
    The fact is you are A Typical insecure English Catholic, have a dislike of the common Irish people. You pick and choose what you like , Tough luck.
    We Irish who are Catholic or not, love the fact that the Americans love being Irish. You English just can’t work it out, how being genuinely liked!
    You are selective in this pathetic bias article, what about the British Terrorism in Ireland! How many innocent Irish people were murdered by the British state. supported by unquestioning selectively ignorant British / English nationalists just like you.

    I bet you have no problem recognizing the Britishness of people who were born and bred in the North Ireland, people who have never been to Britian in their lives.#
    You are a A Typical Hypocrite.

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