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Bishop to defend celibacy in debate two days before Pope’s visit

By on Thursday, 22 July 2010

Bishop Malcolm McMahon of Nottingham will defend the Church’s teaching on celibacy at a major debate in London two days before the Pope’s visit.

The bishop will be joined by Jack Valero, spokesman for the Cause of Cardinal Newman and the co-ordinator of Catholic Voices, and Fr Stephen Wang, dean of studies at Allen Hall seminary.

The event will take place at the Odeon West End Cinema in Leicester Square, London, and will follow a screening of Irish feature film Conspiracy of Silence, about a priest who wishes to marry.

The motion of the debate will be: “Celibacy should no longer be a compulsory requirement for the Roman Catholic priesthood.”

The speakers for the motion are the theologian Professor Tina Beattie, human rights lawyer Helena Kennedy and Fr John McGowan OCD.

The debate will be chaired by Ernie Rea, broadcaster and presenter of BBC Radio 4′s Beyond Belief.

Set in Ireland and inspired by true events, Conspiracy of Silence tells the story of a young trainee priest torn between the love for his girlfriend and his vocation to the Catholic priesthood. Made in 2003, the film did not have a British or Irish release because distributors perceived it as too narrow a subject to warrant a cinema outing.

The film’s director, John Deery, was an altar boy and at one point considered the priesthood. He is a practising Catholic.

Jack Valero, who is also a spokesman for Opus Dei, said: “I thought I would stand with Bishop McMahon: it would be sad not to answer the challenge.

“I think they want to stir up the thing, but we will just put our point forward. I was listening to a debate on priestly celibacy on the Sunday programme last week and I found their arguments really shallow.

“The film is emotional blackmail, and the three of us will be trying to explain the issues and show that the Church does not stop you marrying. If you want to marry, you can marry, no one is forced into the priesthood.”

Mr Valero said: “This debate has been going on for decades, so we’re unlikely to convince anybody on the night, but it would be a shame if the Church didn’t explain its view.

“We’ve decided with Catholic Voices that we’re going to tackle head on all criticisms of the Church, and explain our position in a reasonable manner. People might not agree with the Church, but they’ll hopefully understand that it has a reasonable position, and is not living in the Dark Ages, as is claimed.”

  • Richard

    Lep, you're right, apologies for going off the subject. However, I did stumble upon this site as it would not usually be the type of site I would go on. So, let's stick to celibacy for a moment! What is that? I have no idea! And the reason I have no idea is that celibacy is not natural. Who would want to go through their life not having sex? What sort of weirdo thing is that? How can people not have sex with other people? Do they have sex with themselves? What's the difference? Celibacy is NOT normal. Humans are animals. Animals have sex. Even priests have sex according to the papers, television and radio. Why not just abolish such a riduculous rule? What happens when they break the rule, they go to confession and then everything is okay? How mad is that? People like you, Lep, should be ashamed of yourself, peddling such rubbish as celibacy. Maybe I should turn up to this debate if only to hear stupid arguments from so-called 'intelligent' people. Grow up, all of you. Try having sex. Much better.

  • leprechaun_himself

    Richard,

    Humans are not animals. Humans have souls, immortal souls, given to them by God at the moment of conception – that is what makes them different from animals. Sex is for the creation of children within the married state. That is its prime purpose. There are people, priests and nuns and others, who love God to the exclusion of all else and who regard the married state as an obstacle to their ability to commit themselves entirely to the service of God. They do not want to have children, and so they do not have sex. That is why they remain celibate, and the joy they get from serving God far outweighs the transient pleasure of any sexual attraction.
    As for wilfully commiting sin then going to confession and everything becomes all right – well, how little do you know about the Sacrament of Reconciliation? Unless you have a firm intention of avoiding sin and the occasions of sin in the future, going to confession will get you nowhere, except further from God for availing yourself unworthily of a Sacrament.
    We are here for a purpose, Richard, and the ground rules have been clearly set out. It seems that you are unaware of them, and you are flailing about and crashing into fixtures and fittings without understanding why they are there. You will just get hurt that way. Every one is given the Grace to perceive the rules, but not everyone has the wisdom to try to discover them and how to use them. By the way, it is not leprechaun who is “peddling such rubbish as Celibacy”. The ruling on Celibacy is the teaching of the Catholic Church underwritten by the Holy Ghost.
    If you are not married, consider Celibacy until you are, and if you are already married, one of your watchwords needs to be Fidelity.
    Why not have a try at living your life according to the teachings of the Catholic Church – might you not even learn how to get yourself eternal life in Heaven as a result?

  • Annie

    It is a pity that the reactions to John Deery’s film in this particular blog are quite negative. It is unfortunate that they are based on personal attacks. Some of them seem to express rather un-Christian attitudes towards their fellow Catholics.

    It seems to me that John Deery has displayed a great deal of courage by raising, through his film, many important issues related to celibacy and, more generally, to sexuality. The current narrow view of sexuality, failure to accept it as God’s gift which can be expressed in either marriage or celibacy, its many abuses are all reductionistic to humanity.

    Much of the discussions we have in the RC Church are based on moralizing rather than a proper engagement with the topic. This way reduces what could be an important debate to a set of ‘black and white’. Black and white statements can neither be made on the basis of our Church’s Tradition (which especially in its early stage had more positive approach to sexuality that it is present in the current Magisterial teaching) nor on the basis of the Holy Scripture (the book 'Songs of Songs' is a good example here).

    Rather than getting looked in a derogatory way of speaking about the film and the participants of the debate perhaps we (including bloggers of Catholic Herald) should ask: ‘How might we attend to the concrete problems such as the ones presented in John’s film with compassion, humility and not moralizing?’. Many Catholics, ordained as well as lay, call for a new engagement with sexual ethics in the Catholic Church. Sexuality is more than activity. It is who we are as ‘bodyselves’. Sexual body, above all, is a mediator of interpersonal consciousness and an avenue of the person’s fulfilment in intimacy. Religiously, embodied sexuality can be seen as most fundamentally a divine invitation to find out our destinies not in loneliness but in deep connection. Why priests – those who are not in religious orders – can’t, if they wish to, respond positively to this invitation?

    There are no easy answers to questions related to celibacy and more generally to sexuality. There might be many good practical reasons for not allowing married priesthood to be practiced in the Catholic Church immediately but to say that celibacy cannot be an option for those who are called to be both priests and married men is to ignore the depth of human experience and its theological, anthropological and ecclesiological meanings. There is much work to be done in this area – by attending to these issues and by being truly open to the work of the Spirit we may find a way forward.

  • Marty

    Annie,

    You seem to be troubled by the Church's “black and white” moralising. Here's how Our Lord puts it: “You have heard that it was said, `Do not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart..” It doesn't come more black and white than that, except perhaps for the Commandment: Thou shalt not commit adultery.

    Notice, Annie, the absence of dialogue on God's part when He lays down His Commandments. If Our Lord had been prepared to dialogue and compromise divine truth, He would certainly not have been crucified. The fact is He spoke frankly against the tide of the time and He was hated for it. Such is the position His Catholic Church finds itself in today. There is no debating the moral position of the Catholic Church as regards priestly celibacy. End of story! Unless, of course, you are bold enough to dare debate against the ordinance of God Himself.

  • Marty

    Richard,

    I feel truly sorry for you. You attempt to interject human arguments in matters pertaining to a supernatural gift that you clearly don't have. How, then, can you possibly understand a mystery that is beyond human reason, though not opposed to it. You debate from the level of the animal passions. We, on the otherhand, debate from the much higher level of divine grace. The gulf between the two mindsets is unbridgeable save for that free gift of God. If you pray for it you will receive it. In the meantime, don't knock that which you cannot hope to comprehend.

    My advice is to be a little more objective. At least study the claims of the Catholic Church before rejecting them in so hostile a manner. And remember, it is thanks to the Catholic Church that science, the arts, education and the health service are in existence today. So the Church is not just about telling people what they can and cannot do. Do some homework.

    By the way, if you want to identify those responsible for the greatest numbers of deaths and human attrocities in the world, then look not to religion but to despotic atheists beginning with the Roman emperors right through to Hitler and Stalin. They, like you, accused the Church while they slaughtered hundreds of millions between them. You will never find even a remote comparison with the crimes of these people in the Catholic religion, I assure you. You may also wish to weigh just exactly how many babies are murdered in the womb every year by your fellow atheists. Get your head straight!

  • Torkay

    Well said, Leprechaun. This, sadly, is the position the Church has put itself in with its fraudulent and foolhardy posture of “openness to the world” at and since Vatican II. Now the world, perceiving that the Church is open to dialoging about human opinions, and actually considers them worthy of consideration, thinks it can dictate terms to the Church, based on worldly “wisdom,” not on Divine Revelation.

    At any rate, here is a quote on celibacy from “The Catechism Explained,” p. 520 – 521: “The secular clergy are pledged to obey their bishop and lead a life of celibacy…The celibacy of the clergy was first made obligatory at the Synod of Elvira, in 306. During the first 3 centuries there was no need of this law, because priests voluntarily abjured marriage, out of respect for the sacredness of their office. Only at times when the lack of priests was most keenly felt, were married men admitted to the priesthood; but after ordination no one was permitted to marry. Only in isolated and very rare instances, for weighty reasons, has the Pope been known to dispense priests from their vow; and then they had to give up their benefices, and were debarred from all exercise of their sacerdotal functions.”

  • Torkay

    To finish the quote below (I was afraid I had exceed the character count. Silly me.) “In the Middle Ages Pope Gregory VII made a determined stand against the marriage of priests, prohibiting those who had wives from performing any ministerial work. The Council of Trent declared the marriage of priests to be invalid. The Apostles, after their vocation, left all they had; the great prophets, Elias, Eliseus, Jeremias, St. John Baptist, lived a celibate life. A parish priest must devote himself wholly to the salvation of souls; he must administer the sacraments to the sick at the risk of his life, he must assist the poor, admonish his flock, and offer the holy sacrifice of the Mass with a pure heart.”

  • leprechaun_himself

    Annie,

    There is a distinct suggestion in your post that it is acceptable for the tail to wag the dog – a suggestion that if enough people complain often enough, and long enough, and loudly enough, the Church will see reason and conform with their wishes.

    This is not the case. It won't conform with majority rule, only with Christ's rule. End of.

    Nobody is forcing those people to continue being practising Catholics. Once they reject a solemn item of the Church's teaching, they become Protestants and they ought to reconsider their position. Either they accept the teaching, or they face up to being Protestants.

    They cannot pick and mix which bits they accept.

    It is not uncharitable to say this, and it is not moralizing to uphold the teaching of the Church.

  • Marty

    Torkay & Lep,

    I couldn't have put your points better. Sadly, it will not stop the dissenters from questioning Christ's Holy Church. Still, the truth is there if they want to see it.

  • EditorCT

    Annie,

    These discontented priests who hanker after sexual activity are not happy priests. They would be better off leaving and getting married – following the advice of St Paul, better to marry than burn (with sexual desire.) They are not attracting young men to follow in their footsteps. Boys are not attracted to miserable men moaning about their lot. They are, I know from talking to many, attracted to good traditional priests who love their vocation.

    Yourself and Richard appear to think that anyone who is not sexually active is unhappy – bound to be. That is far from being the case. But what an impoverished view of life!

    If you've never met a happy priest, content in his vocation, who finds the idea of married priesthood repugnant, then that is a real shame – because there are such priests. They experience the truth of the saying that God is never outdone in generosity. As Our Lord promised, those who leave everything for Him and for the sake of His Kingdom, are rewarded a hundredfold in this life as well as in the next. These earth-bound priests are blocking this wonderful grace from their souls by their self-centred, carnal preoccupations. It's really very sad.

    I repeat what I said at the outset of this thread. This latest “debate” on celibacy is but one more diabolical attack on the priesthood and the Church.

    And still none of those anxious for sexually active priests have answered my question: can you imagine any of the great priest saints of the Church, like St John Vianney (patron saint of priests) or St John Ogilvie SJ or any other priest saint, campaigning for an end to celibacy? Padre Pio perhaps?

    You see, it's all about quality. What kind of priests do we want? Anne Atkins, broadcaster and commentator on just about everything, sometimes gave the Radio 4 Thought for the Day in the days when I used to listen to it. Her husband is a Church of England vicar. She recounted occasions when their children were sick and they had to post a notice on the Church door to cancel the services. “My husband's congregation know that his children come first…” she said.

    Of course. They must. But, as for notices along the lines of “Mass cancelled – driving wife and sick children to the hospital” or “Mass cancelled – dog gone missing and it's all hands on deck” – count me out.

  • Emma

    religion is past tense. it has no value in a modern society. any person who is leading a normal life doesn't need religion. religion is only for saddos and people who can't cope. when you die you die. the bible, the cause of most wars, is totally made up by men who are out to control women. as far as celibacy is concerned that should be up to the individual concerned whether or not he is a priest. telling people how to be sexually is just another form of control and, no doubt, was yet another MAN made rule. as someone else said below, grow up guys. emma h.

  • Raoul3456

    On the contrary, religion is very much the future. Read God is Back: How the Global Rise of Faith is Changing the World by John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge. It is perfectly possibly to be both modern and a believer. Your binary opposition – religious=bad, non-religious=good – is very crude. It seems you may have some intellectual “growing up” to do yourself.

  • leprechaun_himself

    Emma,

    Just pause a while and look around you – look at the infrastructure, the traffic, the people going about their business, the commerce behind the scenes. It does rather look as if mankind is in charge, doesn't it? And now look at the television news of 15 million people in Pakistan whose lives have been thrown into chaos, if not utter disaster and even death. Does this not suggest to you that mankind is rather puny after all, and not quite as in control as it might seem?
    There is a Creator behind all you can see, and there is a behaviour system available to us to help us relate to that Creator. He sent His son, Jesus Christ, to live amongst us to reveal to us what we need to know and do. He gave each of us the Grace to learn about it, but also the free will to ignore it if we wanted.
    Religion (to use a more familiar term than “behaviour system”) is very relevant today, and even more so as society becomes more and more complex. It does have value, and fortunately there is a repository for what we need to know and do. It is the Catholic Church, with its Tradition, Holy Scripture and its Sacred Magisterium. Celibacy is just one of the facets embraced by the teachings of the Catholic Church. This is what guides and motivates us guys whom you are telling to “grow up”.
    Pause, and think about it, Emma – are we really nothing more than chemical accidents walking about between the times of conception and death? Really?

  • Marty

    Emma,

    There have been only two global conflicts in the history of humanity, WWI (1914-1918) & WWII (1939-1945). Between them they claimed in the region of 55 million lives, a higher body count than all previous conflicts combined. Neither World War had its origin in religion.

    It is estimated that Stalin murdered a conservative 30 million people during his reign in Russia. Stalin was not a religious man.

    Mao Tse-Tung killed approximately 14-20 million Chinese people through starvation in his 'Great Leap Forward' campaign. Mao was not religious.

    The dropping of the atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hirroshima and Nagasaki killed 100,000 instantly and left a further 95,000 to die slowly and painfully from the effects of gamma radiation. Religion played no part in the decision to drop these bombs.

    I will not enter into the debate surrounding more recent conflicts, including Iraq and Afghanistan, which are also non-religious wars. Suffice it to say, Emma, that it is only with the decline of Christian morality, which began in earnest around the early part of the 20th century, that the world has been subjected to the greatest horrors since its foundation.

    Hitler, Stalin and Mao were atheistic despots. Nothing in the history of Christianity can compare with the evils these men inflicted on humanity. One day we will add the name of North Korea's dictator to their ranks and know the full body count from that country.

    In the meantime, you may wish to consider the body count from abortion in today's post-Christian civilisation. This and other medical deviations from morality, such as euthanasia (called mercy killing!), genetic interference with pregnancy and cloning, are all practices of secular atheism, not of religion. They mirror in every respect the eugenics programmes begun by Stalin & Hitler.

    So you see, Emma, when people turn en masse from the true God, it is inevitable that suffering and chaos will follow. Everyone becomes his/her own God with his/her own moral compass, or rather with no real morality at all, just a free serving of the disordered passions of fallen human nature.

    Tragically, what results from the troubled conscience of such self-serving types is generally an outpouring of hostility towards Christ and His Church rather than the repentence desired by Christ of the wayward soul.

  • http://www.catholictruthscotland.com EditorCT

    Emma,

    It is good to see (alleged) atheists like yourself and Richard coming onto a Catholic blog – thank you very much for dropping by. I say “alleged” because few people are truly atheists. I recall the BBC news reporter concluding his report on the Beslan school hostage crisis (2004 or thereabouts) with the words: “there are no atheists in Beslan tonight.” I doubt if there are many in Pakistan today, either.

    Please God, you (and Richard) will come to a realisation of the truth and beauty of the Catholic religion – in the very nature of things, there can only be one true religion and this is it! Don't fall for the media propaganda. Check out the facts for yourself. Read – you'll find very good, trustworthy books on Catholicism available from outlets advertised on the Catholic Truth website, Links section. See http://www.catholictruthscotland.com

    Your comments on priestly celibacy are perfectly understandable. Only in the light of Faith, which has to be fully embraced, not treated as some kind of permanent journey or search engine, is it possible to appreciate the importance and beauty of the celibate priesthood.

    Contrary to what most atheists appear to think, it is not irrational to believe in God and to have Faith in things unseen. It would be, in fact, entirely unreasonable to refuse to believe in Catholic dogmas, such as the Holy Trinity simply because we cannot arrive at these truths by our human intelligence, when we know that our human reason is, and always will be, limited. It is, in fact, by recognising that our human reason is finite, is limited, that we can accept and believe that there are truths which are beyond our human understanding.

    Anyway, Emma, it's too much to expect you to understand the Church's requirement of celibacy for priests, given your atheistic perspective. Indeed, George Bernard Shaw once said: “It is difficult, if not impossible, for men to think differently from the spirit of the age in which they live..”

    I'd settle for you enjoying a good experience of Catholic conversation on this blog, with elementary human courtesy if not Christian charity from the bloggers here, in the sincere hope that you will be drawn a bit closer to the truths of salvation, held in trust by Christ's Church.

    So, enjoy, Emma!

  • FriarLawrence

    There is no god. That's it. Simple. As for celibacy, what a ridiculous idea trying to prevent people from having sex with other people. Whethyer that's man-on-man, woman-on-woman or a combination of both! People are people. Let them do what they want. It's no one else's business apart from the individual concerned. All long as they are consenting adults let people do what they do. The Catholic Church needs to butt out of people's lives and stick to insense and made up prayer books.

  • Raoul3456

    You are wrong. The Catholic Church is imposing nothing on people. It is merely trying to enlighten our consciences so that we can do good and shun evil. How could the Church not address the ethical dimensions of the most intimate relationship available to human beings? Its teachings on sexuality are not meant to 'control' but rather to inspire people to use the great gift of sexuality with selfless love.

  • leprechaun_himself

    FriarLawrence

    The content of your post could be summarised as:

    “Do what thou will't shall be the whole of the law”.

    This is a philosophy propagated by Aleister Crowley, arch-Satanist of the 1920s. Not many people know that, which goes to illustrate how successful Satan has been in gathering souls into his camp without them even suspecting.
    Raoul3456 is quite right to say that the teachings of the Church are there to inspire rather than to control.
    Celibacy is not a state forced upon priests. They all know what is expected of them before they even enter the Seminary. Celibacy is a state they wish to enter in order to be better able to serve God. Control does not come into it.

  • EditorCT

    FriarLawrence,

    May I recommend a book to you, written by one of the world's most notorious atheists – you'll have heard of him: Antony Flew. The book is entitled “There is (No) A God” (“No” is scored through and “A” inserted above) because, as it says on the dust cover, this book is about “How the world's most notorious atheist changed his mind.”

    Having recommended Flew (published by Harper Collins) allow me now to very briefly highlight the flaw in your argument. “Flew” … “Flaw”… Get it?

    If it's a case of anyone can have sex, whether “man-on-man/woman-on-woman” (as you put it) how do we protect children? And, should we be teaching children about all the possibilities – such as humans with animals, to put it as delicately as I can. Because, that's all the rage right now, or so I'm told by some Anglican friends who are deeply worried about the content of school sex education, lyrics in pop songs etc. (Don't blame me; the last lyric I can remember from a pop song went something like “Ger offa my blue suede shoes…”

    So, if you seriously believe that whatever people want they must be allowed to have, in the sphere of sexual behaviour, what do we tell the children and their pets? Shouldn't we protect children and animals?

    But be careful, FriarLawrence, for once you admit an exception to the rule – you're in the dangerous area of having to face the question of who has the authority to make the rules. Clue: all roads lead to Rome…

  • EditorCT

    Richard,

    Allow me to recommend another book (Dawkins is kind of in the category: “oh no, not him again!” Dated.)

    Try reading “There is A God” by Antony Flew, “one of the world's most notorious atheists” to find out, as it says on the dust cover “How (he came to ) change his mind”

    Published by Harper Collins, it is a must-read. If you can make head OR tail of Dawkins, you'll love Flew.

    God bless (oops!)

  • EditorCT

    FriarLawrence, and our other atheist friends,

    In addition to the Antony Flew book I recommended earlier, here is some Spirituality Light for your amusement…
    http://www.ourlighterside.com/stuff/atheistinwo

    Enjoy!

  • Tina Beattie

    My CV is available to download on my Roehampton and personal websites. In answer to your questions:

    Re my qualifications: When I left school, I trained as a secretary. I gave up work when my first child was born and spent the next twelve years at home with my children. When my fourth child started school I went to the University of Bristol as a mature student. I graduated in 1994 with a BA First Class Hons. in Theology and Religious Studies, and went on to successfully complete a PhD, also at the University of Bristol. I have had lecturing posts at the University of Bristol, at Wesley College in Bristol, and with the Open University. I took up a full-time post as a senior lecturer at Roehampton University eight years ago, where I was promoted to Reader and then to Professor.

    I do not have a Liverpool accent, and as far as I can remember I have never given a lecture at Warwick University.

    Tina.

  • Tina Beattie

    See above for my response.

    I'm rather busy so will not post anything more on this blog, but thank you for your interest in my work and for taking the time to converse with me.

    Best wishes,
    Tina.

  • CathedralMan

    St John of the Cross lived in the 16th century. How could he be referred to in the Gospels?

  • EditorCT

    Well, Tina, clearly this is a case of mistaken identity. I would apologise but, to be honest, when I saw your website photo and realised you were a cut above the “Tina Beattie” of my unhappy Warwick University memory, I think “congratulations” are more in order.

    That said, my key point wasn't really that you and “that schoolteacher” were one and the same person but that you (like her) are a public dissenter. The only thing that your post of eleven hours ago proves, is that you are a better qualified dissenter than that rather giddy RE teacher, that you scaled the ladder of academic success at an amazing speed (I mean, how long did the PhD take – ten minutes? Oh never mind…) and that, mercifully, you don't speak with a Liverpool accent.

    The fact remains, though, our Tina, that you are a public dissenter – and how. Quite apart from your recent Tablet article on abortion, there is a trail of dissent that, perhaps, helps to explain that record climb to the top of the world of academia. Here's an extract from an article penned by Patricia Phillips and published as part of a series in Christian Order some time ago. Hence, some more recent examples of your dissent are missing. But, folks, take a look at what follows and ask yourself this question: if Tina Beattie DID give a lecture at Warwick University, would you attend?

    EXTRACT from “The Feminist Threat to the Church – Part IX” by Patricia Phillips…

    Subversion

    One example is Dr Tina Beattie. Readers may be interested to check out her website, especially her CV at http://tina.beattie.googlepages.com for full details of her past and continuing involvement in ecclesiastical structures. Beattie was always listed as a CWN member, but isn’t in the 2006 CWN/WWS directory. This doesn’t mean that she has left, since members can opt to be omitted from the directory. However, whether in CWN/WWS or not, her dissent from Catholic teaching is on public record and beyond dispute, as reported in my previous articles on feminism.

    Beattie is a Director of The Tablet and has used this dissident organ to expound her dubious views on abortion (http://www.thetablet.co.uk/articles/1510) compounded by another Tablet article titled “Life in all its reality” (27 October 2007), justifying her decision to continue supporting Amnesty International in spite of its policy change on abortion. She has publicly upbraided the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for its censure of dissident theologian Fr Jon Sobrino, and has openly given her support to the campaign for women’s ordination.

    She also spoke at a conference run by the dissenting homosexual group Quest in 2005. A report from Quest’s website states: “Dr Tina Beattie joined us for dinner on Saturday evening and showed serious collaboration on the dance floor later. On Sunday morning, unruffled by the previous evening’s exertions, she presented us with a thorough analysis of the theology of ministry …” She was asked to speak again at Quest’s 2008 conference in Roehampton. They publicity stated: “Dr Tina Beattie will be making a welcome return following her impressive talk at the 2005 conference in Liverpool. She will also be on home soil as she is Reader in Theology and Religious Studies at Roehampton University.”

    Despite her open dissent – or perhaps because of it – Beattie regularly speaks on Catholic premises, and was invited to speak at the NBCW 2008 Nottingham conference titled “Magnificat, Magnificat – the Challenge for Women Today”. Remember, NBCW is an official advisory body to the Bishops’ Conference. That the NBCW should give Beattie a platform should come as no surprise as this outfit is still dominated by known CWN/WWS members and other dissenting feminists. NBCW also published one of Beattie’s articles on the front page of the Winter 2008 edition of their newspaper Catholic Omnibus (distributed in most churches), titled “The Dignity of Women – a missed opportunity?”, which criticised aspects of John Paul II’s Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem, and took a sideswipe at the conference being held in Rome in February 2008, to mark the 20th anniversary of the Letter. In it she stated:

    What does it mean, for example, to say in Mulieris Dignitatem that “In the name of liberation from male ‘domination’, women must not appropriate to themselves male characteristics contrary to their own feminine ‘originality’. There is a well-founded fear that if they take this path, women will not ‘reach fulfillment’, but instead will deform and lose what constitutes their essential richness”. Where is this ‘well-founded fear’? Does any woman reading this really know the meaning of “feminine ‘originality’” and our ‘essential richness’? These are concepts redolent of romantic fantasies of womanhood which have little bearing on the everyday realities of women’s lives, yet the session titles for the Mulieris Dignitatem conference suggest an agenda heavily tilted towards perpetuating rather than challenging or debating these anachronistic stereotypes…

    In case you are wondering about the session titles that so disturbed Beattie’s dissident sensibilities, they were:

    • “Reflection on women since the Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem; evaluation and prospects”
    • “Jesus of Nazareth, Mary and women in the Gospel and in the early Church.
    • “Christianity and the advancement of women”
    • “So God created human kind in his image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them” (Gn 1, 27)
    • “Woman and man, created each for the other”
    • “Problems and Contemporary cultural trends”
    • “Women’s responsibility and participation in building up the Church and in society”
    • “The role and mission of women”
    • “Predominant challenges as perceived in various parts of the world”

    Beattie recently penned an article for the Tablet titled “Femininity within the Trinity” (29 March 2008) which, at a first brief glance, looked surprisingly like it might be supportive of the Vatican crackdown on feminist interpretations of the liturgy, but on closer inspection revealed itself as yet another call for the ordination of women:- “If the hierarchy wants to reinforce the message that Trinitarian language is about relationality rather than masculinity, then one way to do that would be to surrender any literal association between the physical masculinity of the priest and the eucharistic presence of Christ. This would be an eloquent way of affirming that the Trinitarian relationship transcends gender, and that God is neither he nor she. The presence of a woman performing the Eucharist or the baptismal rite would be a sacramental sign of the mystery of the Incarnation and of the redemption of our humanity which includes the totality of who we are …”

    In the same article, Beattie uses the terms “radical feminist” and “conservative” to describe others, which gives the impression of trying to represent herself as a mainstream Catholic, situated between two extremes. Do not be fooled. Recently, she applied for the Bede Chair of Catholic Theology at Durham University’s Centre for Catholic Studies. As part of the selection process for this post, she gave a presentation in which she spoke of the importance of recovering the wisdom of St Thomas Aquinas in today’s world! Amen to that! But while recommending the Angelic Doctor, she is apparently unable or unwilling to utilise his heavenly wisdom to escape the pride and foolishness of her non serviam mindset.

    The March 2008 issue of Network carries a glowing review of the book by dissident Australian bishop Geoffrey Robinson Confronting Power and Sex in the Catholic Church. Bishop Robinson has since been condemned by his brother bishops as reported in the Melbourne Age of 14 May 2008 (http://www.theage.com.au): “Australia’s Catholic bishops have disowned retired Sydney bishop Geoffrey Robinson, accusing him of failing to understand fundamental church teachings. The country’s bishops have released a public statement suggesting that Bishop Robinson – as a bishop, a man chosen by the Pope to guard the teaching of Catholics — is wrong about the authority of Christ and the authority of the church to ‘teach the truth’.” In the same edition, Network also promotes booklets published by the dissident Catholics for a Changing Church and carries the usual pieces promoting the work of groups dissenting from Church teaching on homosexuality and women’s ordination.
    END OF EXTRACT

    Well, Tina? You may not have lectured at Warwick University but it seems you’ve lectured just about everywhere else, and, like the schoolteacher who spouted nonsense at those of forgot to bring our rotten tomatoes, you are spreading false teaching, or dissent as it's generally known. Not on, Sugar Plum. And there’s loads more where that little lot came from – see the rest of this article and a list or additional articles at http://www.catholic-feminism.co.uk/

    I – absolutely – rest my case.

  • EditorCT

    See above for my response to your response – and I apologise for the couple of typos in the final paragraph which should read as follows:

    Well, Tina? You may not have lectured at Warwick University but it seems you’ve lectured just about everywhere else, and, like the schoolteacher who spouted nonsense at those of us who forgot to bring our rotten tomatoes, you are spreading false teaching, or dissent as it's generally known. Not on, Sugar Plum. And there’s loads more where that little lot came from – see the rest of this article, and a list of additional articles at http://www.catholic-feminism.co.uk/
    END OF CORRECTED PARAGRAPH

    I can well understand why you want to bow out from this discourse, Tina, so thank you for responding to my comments. All that remains now is for you to respond faithfully to Christ's injunction to obey His commandments, one of which is to hear those to whom He has bequeathed His authority to teach in His Name – the Magisterium, in communion with the entire Tradition of the Church.

    Our Lady of Fatima, pray for our Tina!

  • Marty

    Cathedralman,

    The St. John of the Cross I was referring to was he who stood at the foot of the Cross, better know as St. John the Evangelist, the brother of James. Hope that clears up the confusion for you.

  • just someone

    I was really shocked to read such heated debates. I believe in celibacy and in putting myself under authority that has such a long history. Please don't shoot me down too much for introducing another perspective. I'm not good at referencing but I did hear a priest talking about the ministry of the laymen and women and a call for the parish to exercise their gifts. I've also been reading much about the Catholic charasmatic renewal (1967) and the new Pentecost and hearing that the 'Pentecostal' churches are expanding at a very high rate, mostly in third world countries with many testimonies of healings and miracles. I cant help wondering if congregations, by default, leave so much ministry to the priest. The gospel, as my bible I believe tells me, is one of power – healing the sick, raising the dead and casting out demons. In short I'm suggesting that another issue under the surface maybe that lay people, who are married, want to make a difference in spreading the good news of Jesus but feel they lack any teaching, power or authority to do so. I don't see this as undermining celibacy or priesthood. I wonder if priests too need more of the Holy Spirit to help them in their ministry and to help them sustain their calling?

  • Marty

    just someone,

    The Charismatic movement was a hippie product of the 1960s that would never have been permitted to exist in the Church in any other period of her sacred history.

    I well remember a fellow in my parish many years ago who wore a big wooden cross around his neck and was generally to be found stretched out like a flag on the church floor, groaning in some alien language that he called speaking in tongues.

    What he forgot was that on the first Pentecost the Apostles were given the gift to speak in tongues so that every man heard them preach in his own language. They didn't spew out a load of old cobblers that no-one this side of Pluto could understand! That kind of garbled noise comes from the Devil, not God.

    As for the Charismatic laying on of hands, that's just another ruse from a con organisation that would turn Holy Mother Church into a flower-power commune. If any of them laid hands on me, which I doubt they would, I would very quickly check to see if my watch and ring were still present. Don't forget that the Devil can manifest apparent miracles of healing. The test is in the permanence of such a healing. Don't believe everything you read.

    Please have nothing whatever to do with the Charismatic movement. It is a scandalous insult to true Catholic piety, which is hardly surprising given that it is Pentecostal (Protestant) in nature. The Church has managed very well without that kind of showmanship for 2000 years. There was never a lay organisation like it in the early Church.

    Best stick with your rosary and true devotion to Our Lady. Pray for priests and all consecrated souls of God. It is they alone who have the power and the authority from God to administer the grace of the sacraments. The layman has his duty of state to get on with, or, if he is so inclined and disposed, he can enter a religious order as a brother. By the way, too many priests these days like the easy life. They are hardly in the mould of St. John Vianney, their patron. Let them work harder for the glory of God and the salvation of souls. That's what they vowed to do when they entered the seminary. It is what they are promised great reward for in Heaven. Our Lord never took regular time out, nor the saints!

    I should just mention that the Charismatic fellow I mentioned, who was a leading light in the parish, had a live-in girlfriend, also a member of the Charismatic movement. There was certainly a bit of laying on of hands going on there, but not in a holy sense!!

  • EditorCT

    Just someone,

    While you state at the outset that you support the Church's teaching on celibacy, the rest of your post reflects the thinking of those who argue for a married clergy.

    It is a mistake to think of our membership of the Church – whether as baptised laity, ordained priest, or consecrated religious – in terms of “doing.” The Church's mission is not to make us do things, but to make us holy. Our task is to BE something – to become holy. It's not about “doing” so the focus today on “ministries” is dangerous and misleading. I don't have any “ministry” in the Church. Does that make me a second class Catholic?

    In fact, the term “ministry” should not be applied to lay people, as pointed out in the Vatican Instruction on the Laity, 1997; the word “ministry” is properly used only when applied to the ordained, not to lay people. But like every other Instruction from the Vatican, our bishops have ignored it and the wrong application of “minister” and “ministry” continues – without, it must be acknowledged, any disciplinary action from the Vatican. Over and over again, the Vatican fails to enforce its own rules.

    The recent emphasis on the Charismatic movement is right in tune with the “spirit of Vatican II” because it stems from Protestantism. It was a Protestant movement in its origin and its entire thrust is Protestant. Charismatics reduce everything – as do Protestants – to the Bible and the Holy Spirit.

    When you say that the new Pentecostal “churches” are expanding fast and you refer to “testimonies of healing and miracles” I ask “who is doing the testifying and who confirms that the miracles are authentic?” These “testimonies” are very subjective; I always cringe, frankly, when in the presence of folk giving their “testimony” and have to restrain myself from calling out “get a grip.” Sorry, not my scene.

    I'm just back from Lourdes and, believe me, before any alleged miracle is confirmed, the claim is rigorously investigated by a panel of experts, medical, psychiatric, you name it, of every religion and none. An Italian woman who claimed she was cured of her paralysis last year (and she appears to have been cured, walking now) told on television how she was immediately examined and question for hours on end and even now, with her walking and all medical opinion dumbfounded, still her cure has not been officially pronounced as “authentic.” The Church is always slow to accept claims of healing miracles and quite rightly so.

    The Devil can play all sorts of tricks to fool people into thinking they are healed and he might effect an appearance of healing – just as he makes rosary beads change colour at hoax apparition sites and the gullible label such shenanigans “miracles” when all they are really witnessing is diabolical activity. The Devil is very close, and it is a mistake to forget that.

    As for your remark about some lay people who are married “wanting to make a difference in spreading the good news of Jesus but feel they lack any teaching power or authority” – well, we all have a very elementary duty to spread the Faith. That comes with the job description at Baptism and we receive particular graces and strengthening at our Confirmation, precisely to enable us to take Christ and His Church into our work places, and anywhere else where we meet people.

    Yet, in my own experience, those same people who wail about being “excluded” from the power structures of the Church, etc. are the very same people who argue that religion is “a private matter” and they avoid, at all costs, speaking out to defend the Church 's teaching – that is Christ Himself – when it is attacked by colleagues and friends in conversation, let alone in the newspapers or in the wider broadcasting media. Even on another Catholic blog not so long ago, I was not alone in being scandalized that certain bloggers were so impatient with an atheist visitor that they drove him away with their demands that he … well … go away. There's no use complaining that the laity should have a role in the Church, if we can't see the wood for the trees. Our role is to spread the Faith – and not just when we feel like it or in the manner in which we would prefer, but seeing God in everyone and in every context.

    So, I'm afraid I think you are misled. We all have a duty to spread the Faith in our everyday circles. If we want to be taking centre stage anywhere, whether in the sanctuary at Mass or in the imagined “power structures” of the parish or diocese, then we are suffering from Mr Ego's problem – the sin of pride.

    Finally, priests are given all the graces they need to remain faithful to their vocation, but you are right in that we ought to pray especially for priests. They are under diabolical attack today, no doubt about it.

    That's why these perpetual discussions attacking celibacy, are so dangerous. Sadly, too many priests, like the priests who agree to write about and debate what they term the “issue” have lost sight of the nobility of their own state of life. Very sad.

  • LivingProof

    It is important, is it not, Catholics to be able to discuss issues that have repercussions for everyone and celibacy is most certainly one of those subjects. Why is the Church so hung up about sex and human sexuality? All this talk about 'following in the footsteps of Christ.' The chances are that Christ was married. The gospels have been altered to fit in with a political agenda. They are not accurate historical documents. People give the gospels a lot more authority than they deserve. There were at least 32 gospels and many from women. Where have they gone? In the Vatican's vault, probably.

    If the real life of Christ were to be revealed the Church would crumble because it's built on sand and not a 'rock. Yes, no doubt, Christ was a great man and ahead of his time but he was just that – a MAN. He may have been more aware than most and was almost certainly in touch with a 'higher being', a universal force, thought-energy, call it what you will.

    Please, you intelligent people who are blogging on here, move away from your superstitious musings and get real. Religion is history. Celibacy is not achievable long-term (what about masturbation, does that count?), and you all would be better off trying to bring about peace in the world than getting people to live out their lives in fear with the false promise of a 'better life' when we are dead. Utter rubbish!

  • CathedralMan

    Marty

    In Catholic tradition, St John of the Cross is the Spanish mystic and contemporary of St Teresa of Avila. St John the Evangelist is never referred to by this name. I hope this clears up the confusion for you.

  • CathedralMan

    One of the biggest egos on the Catholic blogosphere belongs to your good self, editorct. There is not a subjet under the sun where you don't lambast others for their failings and bad faith. Surely a sin of pride!

  • EditorCT

    Thank you, Cathedralman, for this fraternal correction. Please pray for me.

  • EditorCT

    LivingProof,

    It is not the Church that's hung up on sex – it's people like the Tina Beatties, and Fr John McGowans of this world, in concert with the secular media, who are hung up on sex – not the Church.

    As for the rest of your post – nonsense. There isn't a single shred of evidence anywhere that Christ was married and it is simply not true to say that the Gospels were altered to fit in with a political agenda. That's an old chestnut, put forward by pretend Scripture Scholars like Rudolph-the-red-nosed-reigndeer- Bultmann, who had their own agenda – which was to undermine the divinity of Christ. There were plenty of Useful Idiots ready to drink in their theories – don't you go joining their ranks.

    And I don't know where you get the idea that Catholics live our lives in fear – baloney! Unfortunately, there are plenty of surveys to show that there are more Catholics in prisons (on occasions!) than any other group – hardly evidence that we worry ourselves to death about the fires of Hell. So, don't be daft.

    Why not do some serious reading about the Catholic Faith instead of spouting propaganda? Since you don't appear to believe in God, let alone His Church, why not start with the book I've already recommended to the other atheists on here – Antony Flew's “There is A God” (he was originally an atheist – described on the book cover as “the world's most notorious atheist…”)

    Then we'll talk.

  • leprechaun_himself

    LivingProof,

    Brave words! Confidently written! Will you still be as confident when you are at the hour of your death and it is too late to go back and alter anything? You seem to have embraced a set of opinions that are contrary to what the Church teaches. Why not balance the scale and gather some opinions from the other end of the spectrum, as EditorCT suggests? Why not explore what the Church teaches – not only about Celibacy, but about Salvation – it might even strike a chord with your inner self.
    Remember this advice as the years slip by (and they seem to slip by faster as you get older), and it might stand you in good stead in time to save your soul.

    What happened to Saul on the road to Damascus could yet happen to you.

  • John

    I am now back in the UK now and really looking forward to the celibacy debate on 14 September. We announced last week via a press release that stand-up comedian and broadcaster, Frank Skinner, is taking part in the debate against the motion. In other words Frank is pro celibacy for the Catholic priesthood. It is certainly shaping up to be a very interesting evening.

    I have had several emails whilst I have been away asking how people can book tickets. The easiest way is via:

    http://www.conspiracyofsilence.co.uk

    Follow the link on the Home page which takes you to the Odeon cinema West End and you can pick where you sit.

    I love the different opinions on this blog – some a bit too personal, some mad, some very interesting – keep blogging folks! There's nothing like a good argument and on Tuesday 14 September, two days before the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI to the UK, we will have just that. Celibacy is a hot topic and is not going to go away. Let's debate it calmly and intelligently. After all, we are all Catholics.

    John Deery
    Writer/Director
    Conspiracy of Silence

  • James

    Get real everyone! You lot need to join in the real debate: http://www.secularism.org.uk

  • Brian Eyre

    With relation to the article on Bishop Malcolm McMahon of Nottingham defence of celibacy two days prior to the Pope's visit I would like to submit my comments.
    I am a Catholic married priest. I was happy as a celibate priest for 17 years, I am happy as married catholic priest for the past 27 years. I belong to the Roman Latin Rite.
    I agree with Jack Valero when he says that no one is forced into the priesthood just as no one is forced into getting married.
    Most married priests are part of the Eastern Catholic Churches of the Eastern Rite in countries such as The Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia and the Ukraine.
    20% of all catholic priests in the world are married of whoom 150,000 belong to the Latin Rite.
    One of the arguments against married priests is that they will be divided between family and pastoral committments. This is not true.
    If you look at Lenin's term of office, it has been estimated that in the first ten years of his reign close on 250,000 priests and religious were put to death along with many lay christians. This witness of the Eastern Church priests gives more than enough assurance that married priests can be every bit as committed as celibate priests.
    Ever since the day I got married I have continued to do pastoral ministry while holding down a secular job. I work in shanty towns and poor communities giving spiritual and human development assistance to these communities. I have not found that the sacrament of matrimony has hindered me in anyway in serving the people. My wife has been a blessing to me and thanks to her I am still active as a priest.
    It can be seen and verified from all walks of life that the most demanding of employments succeed best with the help of a loving family.

    Brian Eyre (Recife, Brazil)

  • justanotherparishioner

    EditorCT,
    I was rendered speechless, not a typical occurence in my life, to see after reading through the many tirades posted on this website that you are, like me, a woman…I am Hail Mary'ing as I write.
    Please, please, I want to meet one of these 'happy priests' who finds the idea of married priests repugnant, names, one name, please…and no homosexuals-because that's not a level playing field.
    Every priest I know is in favour of marriage, or celibacy, as a choice, ooh how crazy does that sound-it is bizzare that on an almost weekly basis in some large parishes that priests should be performing the sacrament of marriage, while all the while (according to you) knowing that they are distancing the happy couple from the life of Christ (as if we weren't all not worthy anyway!!!)
    I was wondering since I now know you are not a priest (an obvious assumption to make considering you write with such authority on the subject), are you a Sister?
    And could you, for those of us who don't have your way with words, put down on paper some thoughts about those opposing the motion, for the purpose of balance? A member of a highly secret organisation, who feels it necessary to keep it's own private wealth-gained in, well private-separate from that of it's 'fellow brother and sister' catholics, and whose members rarely reveal themselves to us lowy parishioners?
    And a comedian…isn't he a football comedian? Tough competition Dr Beattie. And poor Fr John McGowan who seems to get a mention in one of the posts above as sex obsessed…isn't he a Carmelite? I don't think I'll go to the debate…I scrub up quite well and am currently single, he might jump me..

  • justanotherparishioner

    EditorCT,
    A priest is not holy because he doesn't have sex with a wife,he is holy because he strives, usually much harder than all of the rest of us to BE holy, and because he serves God, spreading the Gospel,' feeding his flock' shall we say if you insist on florid phrase for all statements.
    The sacraments are rendered no less sacred because of his human weaknesses. The priests I have known and know now were fully paid up members of the human race, and I have never felt closer to God than when I've been guided through confession by a hand of experience, who has every faith in God's forgiveness, and his promise of eternal life for all.
    I have no problem with celibate priests, whatever the reason for that choice. I do have a problem with the hugely talented, popular, and effective priests I know, with a calling obvious to all who are blessed to come into contact with their ministry being denied that which God surely intended us to celebrate, indeed that which we do celebrate very often amongst friends and family as a sacrament.

  • Brian Eyre

    I cannot see how you can say that the disciples were celibates after they were called. Have you never read the First Letter of St. Paul to the Corinthians chapter 9 v. 5 – 7 “Don't I have the right to follow the example of the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter, by taking a Christian wife with me on my trips”?
    It's so clear from this that they continued to be married after they were called.

  • http://twitter.com/DeeryDirector John Deery

    I need people to stand up and be counted. I have had so many private comments from people who have said that what I am doing with this debate is great, including some people 'high up' in the Catholic Church but are unable to comment in public. For all of you who can speak publically, please come along and do so.

    Brian Eyre's comment to Marty is particularly relevant. He said:
    'I cannot see how you can say that the disciples were celibates after they were called. Have you never read the First Letter of St. Paul to the Corinthians chapter 9 v. 5 – 7 “Don't I have the right to follow the example of the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Peter, by taking a Christian wife with me on my trips”?
    It's so clear from this that they continued to be married after they were called.'

    I need people at the debate who can counteract so-called 'historical' comments. Come on all you professors and academics, get behind me!

    John Deery
    http://www.conspiracyofsilence.co.uk

  • LOVESOULSHARE

    COLEGIO RETAMAR: OPUS DEI THE WORLD´S BIGGEST SPIRITUAL TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.

    OPUS DEI is the CULTURE of CRUELTY, the IDEOLOGY of LEGAL SPIRITUAL TERRORISM, the THEOLOGY of SPIRITUAL DIRECTION PIRACY, the PRELATE of SOULS TRAFFICKERS, the SECT that INFECTS like INSECTS, the WAY of MALIGNANCE, the FURROW of COMPUTING PROSTITUTION, the FORGE of DOMICILE KIDNAPPING, the CREED of ASSAULTS on REASON and the CATECHISM of PUBLIC TREASURY ROBBERIES in INVISIBLE CASSOCKS. OPUS DEI brings OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE DISORDER, MENTAL DISORDER, PERSONALITY DISORDER, CONJUGAL DISORDERS and CONSCIENCE DISORDER. OPUS DEI embraces a SATANIC and a HARMFUL CULT. OPUS DEI icludes FASCISM, INTOLERANCE, DISHONESTY, BLINDNESS, UNDEMOCRACY, MANIPULATION, AGGRESSION and ELITISM.
    OPUS DEI a HOLY TRIBALISM and TALIBANISM SECT. OPUS DEI SCHOOLS are TALIBANIST MADRASAHS where APPRENTICES or TRAINEES are instructed at CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM, CATHOLIC INTEGRISM, CULTURE of CRUSADES, the CONCEPTS of LEGAL SPIRITUAL TERRORISM and the PRECEPTS of ILLEGALITY for GOD. Thanks LIFE that has given me TOO MUCH to LEARN at the HOLY SUPREME MAFIA of OPUS DEI as an OPUS SUPERNUMERARY and an EDUCATOR at COLEGIO RETAMAR in MADRID, a CORPORATIVE, a LUCRATIVE and a CORRUPTIVE WORK of OPUS DEI, where HIGHNESSES and ROYALTIES have been EDUCATED. I have experienced OPUS DEI ASSAULTS on REASON for THIRTY THREE YEARS, the same AGE of CHRIST on EARTH.

  • LOVESOULSHARE

    COLEGIO RETAMAR: OPUS DEI SAME GENDER SCHOOLS PROMOTE HOMOSEXUALITY AND SAME SEX LOVE. LOVE IS TENDER AND HAS NO GENDER.

    The current POPE FUHRER RATZINGER BIN BUSHITLER who has NO PEDIGREE is responsible for the RAPE of CHILDREN, because of CATHOLIC CHURCH REPRESSION, FUNDAMENTALISM and SLAVERY. FUHRER RATZINGER needs to answer for his CRIMES. He has been crucifying Christ at all the MOMENTS and CIRCUMSTANCES of his LIFE.It has come TRUE that CHRIST has been CRUCIFIED because he was a CRUSADE or a WARLIKE, having the GUN on his SHOULDERS, making GUERILLA WARFARE with his GUERILLA BAND. At the same time, he was addicted to SEX and SEXUALITY. The ABSENCE of his FATHER at the CRUCIFICATION shows that he has abandoned his WIFE and he was living with another WOMAN. It has been rumoured that there was a FOCAL POINT of HOMOSEXUALITY among the APOSTLES.
    JOHN PAUL the Second had STRICT RELATIONS with MARCIAL MACIEL who was the SUPREME SYMBOL of HOMOSEXUALTY at the CATHOLIC CHURCH. FUHRER RATZING has practiced the same IDEOLOGY and THEOLOGY in INVISIBLE CASSOCKS and continued the WAY of the OPUS DEI WAY that takes YOU to the 999 WAYS of the HOLY SUPREME and SUBLIMITY MAFIA on the VATICAN IMPERIAL PLANET. It seems that HOLY MARY has been FULL of GRACE, but the POLISH and the GERMAN PASTORS have been FULL of DISGEACE for the WORLDWIDE SPIRITUALITY and a GLORY for the UNIVERSAL SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. Be GLAD and REJOICE HOLY MARY for your SONS who have BUSHITLERIZED and BASTARDIZED the IDEOLOGY and the THEOLOGY of your SON, who proclaimed LOVE EQUALITY.
    LOVE your NEIGHBOUR as you LOVE yourself. YOU should LOVE your BODY before you LOVE anybode else. You have to give your BODY what it NEEDS and what it asks YOU for. LOVE comes out of HUMAN BODY and it does not come from the DIVINITY. Your BODY is a MACHINE of LOVE. It does not RAIN or SNOW LOVE. It is NATURAL that LOVE turns two BODIES into a HUMAN BEING, a HEART that lives in two BODIES and a SOUL that makes its NEST into two SOULS. CHURCH OPPRESSION, REPRESSION, REPULSION and SLAVERY have given a STRAIGHT WAY to CHURCH SEX ABUSES and CLERICAL CHILDREN RAPES. That is the MAJOR HORRORIFYING HUMILIATION for CHRIST, CHRISTANITY and WORLDWIDE SPIRITUALITY. CHURCH has given a LEGAL WAY to the SAME SEX MARRIAGE. There are NO ways out for FUHRER RATZINGER EXCUSES who should be AFRAID of his PRIENSTS to INVADE the VATICAN PLANET and make LOVE with HIM. He has to SUPPLY CONDOMS for his PRIESTS and BISHOPS instead of VAIN EXCUSES and WAILS. PRIESTS reject BREASTS and prefer CHILDREN´S BACKSIDES. BISHOPS prefer BI SHOPS.

    MOISÉS IBRAHIM: EX PROFESOR de la ESCUELA OFICIAL de IDIOMAS de MADRID. EX SUPERNUMERARIO de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. EX REPRESENTANTE de los TRABAJADORES del COLEGIO RETAMAR de MADRID, OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA y CORRUPTIVA del OPUS DEI, ORIGINARIO de FUNDACIONES ILEGALES, según ACREDITAN los DOCUMENTOS. EX EDUCADOR del ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR durante TREINTA y TRES AÑOS, la MISMA EDAD de CRISTO en la TIERRA, SEDE de SAQUEOS de las ARCAS PÚBLICAS, BUNKER del TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL y CENTRO de MALEDUCACIÓN, donde se EDUCAN ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, concretamente donde he EDUCADO dos GENERACIONES, que en la ACTUALIDAD están OSTENTANDO la SUBLIMIDAD de los PODERES POLÍTICOS, ECONÓMICOS, RELIGIOSOS y DEPORTIVOS en NUESTRA QUERIDA ESPAÑA.

  • LOVESOULSHARE

    COLEGIO RETAMAR: EL CARÁCTER CRIMINIAL DE LA SANTA MAFIA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: EL OPUS DEI SE MARCHA DE PUTAS Y PAGA EL CONTRIBUYENTE.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LOS SANTOS CORRUPTOS y SANGUÍNARIOS DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: EL OPUS DEI VA ROBANDO Y RATZINGER VA VAGABUNDEANDO.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA SANTA MAFIA DEL OPUS DEI NOS ESTÁ ROBANDO LA VIDA.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA OBRA DE DIOS ES BIN FUHRER RATZINGER BIN BUSHITLER.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: OPUS DEI ES BIN JUAN PABLO SEGUNDO CARENTE DE PEDIGREE.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: JUAN PABLO SEGUNDO BIN MARCIAL MACIEL BIN RATZINGER.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA PEDOPHILIA SE HA ORIGINADO EN EL PLANETA VATICANO.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: NO VALEN PEDIR PERDONES O CONDONES POR LA PEDOPHILIA.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: EL TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL DEL OPUS DEI PELIGRA LA VIDA.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: ORGÍA EDUCATIVA MAQUIAVÉLICA FRAUDELENTA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: PEDERASTÍA Y VIOLENCIA EN LA IGLESIA CATÓLICA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: TELEFÓNICA DE ESPAÑA ES EL ARSENAL MORTAL DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA POLICÍA FASCISTA OPUSDEÍSTA AMPARA EL TERROR OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LOS JUECES BUSHITERISTAS RESPALDAN EL TERROR DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: ESCÁNDALOS TESTIMONIADOS PARA EL OPUS DEI Y LA IGLESIA.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: EL OPUS DEI VA DE PUTAS EN PUTAS Y PAGA EL CONTRIBUYENTE.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA AMENAZA REAL DE LA SANTA MAFIA DEL OPUS Y LA IGLESIA.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: TIJERAZOS PARA CORTAR LAS MANOS LARGAS DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: URDANGARÍN Y EL OPUS DEI AMOS DE FUNDACIONES ILEGALES.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: EL OPUS DEI ES UNA SECTA LETAL QUE DOMINA LA CORRUPCIÓN.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA PEDOPHILIA Y EL ABUSO SEXUAL DEL CLERO DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: LA HIPOCRASÍA DEL OPUS DEI DE LA NEGACIÓN DE LA RAZÓN.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: ROSARIO DIARIO DE PODREDUMBRE INCESANTE DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: ESTRATEGIA EDUCATIVA CARENTE DE RECTITUD DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA Y CORRUPTIVA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: OPUS DEI SATANIDAD Y CLANDESTINIDAD HASTA LA ETERNIDAD.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: BUNKER FRENÉTICO DE LOS ASALTOS DE LA RAZÓN DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: FORTALEZA PODEROSA DE LA SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: SANTA SEDE DE FUNDACIONES ILEGALES FANTASMA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: ESTRUCTURA DE CONTROL DE LORD BLACK MONEY DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: BURDEL DE PROSTITUCIÓN INFORMÁTICA DESALMADA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: CENTRO PARA LA PIRATERÍA DE LA CHARLA FRATERNA DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: PENTAGÓNO BELIGERANTE DE TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: CUARTEL ABUSIVO DE RECLUMAMIENTO DE CRUZADOS DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: CALVARIO DE CARÄCTER CRIMINAL DE SANTA LA MAFIA DEL OPUS. DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: COALICIÓN AFIANZADA DE LA CULTURA DE LA MUERTE DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: CRUZADA DEL OPUS DEI PARA DEVORAR EL PAN DE LOS NECESITADOS.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: CAMINO ENCAMINA A 999 CAMINOS DE MALEDUCAR DEL OPUS DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: CONGREAGIÓN FUNDAMENTALISTA PROMOTERA DEL OPUS SECT DEI.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: PROMOTORA DEL OPUS DEI GENERADORA DE LA HOMOSEXUALIDAD.
    COLEGIO RETAMAR: SEDE DE LA SECTA DEL OPUS DEI QUE INFECTA COMO LOS INSECTOS.

    El OPUS DEI se puede considerar la RAMA RELIGIOSA del PARTIDO POPULAR. La GUERRA ILEGAL de IRAK ha evidenciado el carácter criminal del OPUS DEI. La CULTURA de la MUERTE ha metido a ESPAÑA en una GUERRA sin PRECEDENTES en la HISTORIA de la HUMANIDAD por su ILEGALIDAD e INMORALIDAD. El OPUS DEI está acostumbrado a marcharse de PUTAS y paga el CONTRIBUYENTE. El MINISTRO de la CONTIENDA ILEGAL que santificaba el TRABAJO, se SANTIFICABA por el TRABAJO y SANTIFICABA a los demás por el TRABAJO era FEDERICO TRILLO FIGUROA, hijo del que fué MARQUÉS de PERALTA y actual SANTO SUPERMAN de la IGLESIA CATÓLICA, y fué GRAN HERMANO mío en la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. El CAPELLÁN del ILUSE COLEGIO RETAMAR en MADRID argumentaba en presencia de un COLEGA que la GUERRA de IRAK era JUSTA y NECESARIA. Los CORCHOS del DESPACHO de PROFESORES ilustraban las FOTOGRAFÍAS del GRAN HERMANO con nuestros ALUMNOS en sus CUARTALES. Me imagino ADOCTRINABA a las NUEVAS GENERACIONES en las CRUZADAS SANGUÍNARIAS, la CULTURA de la MUERTE, la IDEOLOGÍA del TERRORÍSMO LEGAL, la TEOLOGÍA de los MANDAMIENTOS BUSHITERISTAS y la POLÍTICA FUNDEMENTALISTA.

    Me enorgullece argumentar según los DOCUMENTOS que obran en mi PODER, que el OPUS DEI encarna como JUSTO Y NECESARIO, los ATRACOS a las ARCAS PÚBLICAS, los SAQUEOS de la SEGURIDAD SOCIAL, los ASALTOS a las SUBVENCIONES PÚBLICAS, los FRAUDES contra la COMUNIDAD de MADRID, los HURTOS contra los PROPIOS EMPLEADOS, La GERENCIA de LORD BLACK MONEY, la ADMISTRACIÓN de FUNDACIONES ILEGALES, y el SUMINISTRO LORD COLOURFUL MONEY a las AUTORIDADES ROMANAS. El OPUS DEI no acata las LEYES VIGENTES y no se somete a la CONSTITUCIÓN. El ACTUAL DIRECTOR GENERAL del ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR en MADRID, donde se EDUCAN ALTEZAS y REALEZAS me entregó TREINTA y SIETE MIL EUROS en LORD BLACK MONEY para PRECINTAR mi LIBERTAD y llevar a cabo mi PREJUBILACIÓN ANTICIPADA ILEGAL, que se traducía en un PACTO con los DIABLOS.

    El OPUS DEI PENTAGONAL con todo su ARSENAL BÉLICO no me acobrdado, no me han ACOBARDADO y no me han ATEMORIZADO, a pesar de sus PERSECUCIONES FÉRREAS, sus BRUTALIDADES CONSISTENTES, sus PROSTITUCIONES INFORMÁTICAS, sus SECUESTROS DOMICILIARIOS, sus SUPLANTACIONES POLICIALES y su INTENTO de HOMICIDIO contra mi VIDA, a mano del que fué alumno mío en el ilustre COLEGIO RETAMAR, el MÉDICO de ADESLAS, CANDIDATO a la SANTIDAD y ADEPTO de la CULTURA de la MUERTE; SANTIAGO ESCRIVA DE BALAGUER, sobrino del FUNDADOR del OPUS DEI que obtuvo un MARQUESADO COMPRADO y SANTIDAD FINANCIADA. Me dignifica poner en tu conocimiento, ESTIMADO LECTOR, que llevo alrededor de ocho años denunciado la DELIQUENCIA BESTIAL del OPUS DEI en DIVERSIDADES de TERRENOS. El JUEZ de GUARDIA mostro su MALEVOLENCIA DESCARADA, su FALACIA MAUIAVÉLICA y su DELITO PENAL castigado por las LEYES VIGENTES. El OPUS DEI fué denunciado en otra OCASIÓN, pero la DEMANDA fué ARCHIVADA. La POLICIA FASCISTA OPUSDEÍSTA estrechaba el CIRCO por su COOPERACIÓN con la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI, su TRAICIÓN a la CIUDADANIA y DESLEALTAD a la CONSTITUCIÓN. Cada vez que llamaba al CERO NOVENTA UNO, no recibía más que AMENZAS, INTIMIDACIONES y ADVERTENCIAS que con LA IGLESIA NO SE TOPA. NO CEDO, NO CONCEDO, NO ABDICO Y NO CLAUDICO POR EL DERECHO DE JUSTICIA, QUE ES MI GIGANTESCO ARMAMENTO.

    MOISÉS IBRAHIM: EX PROFESOR de la ESCUELA OFICIAL de IDIOMAS de MADRID. EX SUPERNUMERARIO de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. EX REPRESENTANTE de los TRABAJADORES del COLEGIO RETAMAR de MADRID, OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA y CORRUPTIVA del OPUS DEI, ORIGINARIO de FUNDACIONES ILEGALES, según ACREDITAN los DOCUMENTOS. EX EDUCADOR del ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR durante TREINTA y TRES AÑOS, la MISMA EDAD de CRISTO en la TIERRA, SEDE de SAQUEOS de las ARCAS PÚBLICAS, BUNKER del TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL y CENTRO de MALEDUCACIÓN, donde se EDUCAN ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, concretamente donde he EDUCADO dos GENERACIONES, que en la ACTUALIDAD están OSTENTANDO la SUBLIMIDAD de los PODERES POLÍTICOS, ECONÓMICOS, RELIGIOSOS y DEPORTIVOS en NUESTRA QUERIDA ESPAÑA.

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    COLEGIO RETAMAR: JOSÉ MARÍA ESTEBAN CRUZADO ACREDITA COMO SACERDOTE LA CULTURA SAQUEADORA DE SUS HERMANOS DEL OPUS DEI DE LAS ARCAS DEL ESTADO.

    JOSÉ MARÍA ESTEBAN CRUZADO era un ALUMNO MÍO en el ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR. donde se educan ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, BUNKER de los ASALTOS a la RAZÓN, los SAQUEOS de las ARCAS PÚBLICS, la SEGURIDAD SOCIAL, las SUBVENCIONES del ESTADO, la COMUNIDAD de MADRID y los PROPIOS EMPLEADOS. Los DOCUMENTOS acreditan que el OPUS DEI controla LORD BLACK MONEY, administra FUNDACIONES ILEGALES a lo UNDGARGARÍN, cuñado del REY de ESPAÑA, y envia LORD COLOURFUL MONEY a las AUTORIDADES ROMANAS a nombre de los MIEMBROS del OPUS DEI y SUS DOCUMENTOS de IDENTIDAD.
    La MADRE de JOSÉ MARÍA ESTEBAN se divorció de su PADRE, después de haber tenido SIETE HIJOS, debido a la ESCLAVITUD de las MUJERES en el OPUS DEI. Me he CASADO con la MADRE JOSÉ MARÍA ESTEBAN CRUZADO después de haber convivido con ella durante UN AÑO, a sabiendo de la CAPELLANERÍA de la INSTITUCIÓN EDUCATIVA, cuando era EDUCADOR y a la vez MIEMBRO de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. En resumidas cuentas, he convivido y me he casado con la madre de un HERMANO y con la la MUJER de un HERMANO, cuando los tres erámos del OPUS SECT DEI o OPUS SIN DEI. Nos hemos casado en pleno AYUNTAMIENTO de POZUELO que se consagra como una FORTALEZA de los ADEPTOS al OPUS SEX DEI, y además nos ha casado un CONCEJAL que era un HERMANO NUESTRO. JOSË MARÍA ESTABAN CRUZADO reconoció en una cierta ocasión ante su MADREn cuando era mi MUJER, que sus HERMANOS del OPUS DEI saquean las ARCAS del ESTADO, pero EL no lo HACE. ¿NO TENDRÍAS QUE HACER LA CORRECCIÓN FRATERNA A TUS HERMANOS, JOSÉ MARÍA ESTEBAN CRUZADO? Me imagino, vas a tener mucho trabajo para CONFESTAR a TUS HERMANOS que SAQUEAN las ARCAS del ESTADO. La historia del matriminio de tu MADRE y tu PADRE va en un artículo bajo el tírtulo “LA VIDA OCULTA DE UN NUMERARIO DEL OPUS DEI” al buscar COLEGIO RETAMAR por GOOGLE. Te advieto que dicho ARTÍCULO fué entregado a las AUTORIDADES ECLESIÁSTICAS para solicitar la NULIDAD MATRIMONIAL con tu PADRE. La CONVERSACUIÓN que mantuviste con tu MADRE sobre los ATRACOS del OPUS DEI a las ARCAS PÚBLICAS se ha PUBLICADO en un ARTÍCULO, cuyo TÍTULO te lo puedo precisar en este momento. OPUS DEI es una SATANIDAD hasta la ETERNIDAD. El OPUS DEI VA DE PUTAS EN PUTAS Y PAGA EL CONTRIBUYENTE.

    MOISÉS IBRAHIM: EX PROFESOR de la ESCUELA OFICIAL de IDIOMAS de MADRID. EX SUPERNUMERARIO de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. EX REPRESENTANTE de los TRABAJADORES del COLEGIO RETAMAR de MADRID, OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA y CORRUPTIVA del OPUS DEI, ORIGINARIO de FUNDACIONES ILEGALES, según ACREDITAN los DOCUMENTOS. EX EDUCADOR del ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR durante TREINTA y TRES AÑOS, la MISMA EDAD de CRISTO en la TIERRA, SEDE de SAQUEOS de las ARCAS PÚBLICAS, BUNKER del TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL y CENTRO de MALEDUCACIÓN, donde se EDUCAN ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, concretamente donde he EDUCADO dos GENERACIONES, que en la ACTUALIDAD están OSTENTANDO la SUBLIMIDAD de los PODERES POLÍTICOS, ECONÓMICOS, RELIGIOSOS y DEPORTIVOS en NUESTRA QUERIDA ESPAÑA.

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    COLEGIO RETAMAR: SANTIAGO ESCRIVÁ DE BALAGUÉR TERRORÍSTA ESPIRITUAL Y JOSÉ LUIS ALIER TERRORÍSTA DE LORD BLACK MONEY.

    El OPUS DEI va de PUTAS en PUTAS y PAGA el CONTRIBUYENTE. Los DOCUMENTOS acreditan que el OPUS DEI va de PUTAS en verdad SAQUEANDO las ARCAS del ESTADO, ATRACANDO la SEGUIRIDAD SOCIAL, BOLSEANDO las SUBVENCIONES ESTATALES, ESTAFANDO la COMUNIDAD de MADRID y TIMANDO los PROPIOS EMPLEADOS. El OPUS DEI se infilra en todos los ámbitos sociales al estilo SIONISTA, por tal motivo el ESCRIVÁ SUPERMAN SAINT se hermana con HERTZL. OPUS DEISMO y SIONISM son GEMELOS y representan la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA MUNDIAL y la SATANIDAD hasta la ETERNIDAD.
    El OPUS DEI administra LORD BLACK MONEY a GRANDES ESCALAS. JOSE LUIS ALIER, actual DIRECTOR GENERAL del ilustre COLEGIO RETAMAR, OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA y CORRUPTIVE del OPUS DEI, donde se educan ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, me ha entregado TREINTA y SIETE MIL EUROS en LORD BLACK MONEY o OPUS DEI BLACK MONEY para establecer un PACTO con los DIABLOS. Los DOCUMENTOS que OBRAN en mi PODER constatan que el OPUS DEI controla FUNDACIONES ILEGALES a lo URDANGARÍN. No hay lugar a dudas que la OBRA de DIOS se santifica con LORD BLACK MONEY, santifica LORD BLACK MONEY y santifica a los demás con LORD BLACK MONEY. La SANTIDAD del OPUS DEI radica en la CANTIDAD y no la CALIDAD.
    El OPUS DEI me ha SECUESTRADO en mi propio DOMICILIO y me ha cortado las COMUNICACIONES TELEFÓNICAS en PLENA NOCHE, después de haber sido en vano las AMENAZAS y las INTIMIDACIONES. Cada vez que LLAMABA a la POLICÍA al CERO NOVENTA Y UNO, recibía advertencias AMENAZANTES, aludiendo que con LA IGLESIA NO SE PUEDE TOPAR. El OPUS DEI ejerce el TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL en todos los TERRENOS y abarca el CARÁCTER CRIMINAL para proteger su propia CORRUPCIÓN. LLRVO OCOCHO AÑOS denunciado el OPUS DEI ante la OPIÓN PÚBLICA y las AUTORIDADES GOBERNAMENTALES, , pero por lo acontecido, el OPUS DEI recibe un RESPALDO de la POLICÍA FASCISTA OPUSDEÍSTA y los JUECES BUSHITLERISTAS.
    SANTIAGO ESCRIVÁ DE BLAGUER que fué un EX ALUMNO mío en el ilustre COLEGIO RETAMAR de MADRID, SOBRINO del que fué MARQUÉS de PERALTA y fundador de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI, actual MÉDICO en ADESLAS y por lo visto dado al TERRORÍSMO SANITARIO, me envió un MÉDICO de ADESLAS a mi dOMICILIO, al día siguiente de mi SECUESTRO DOMICILIARIO, sin conocimiento del ASEGURADO y la IDENTIDAD ASEGURADORA, para ACABAR con mi VIDA. Al salir el MÉDICO “DR. SUÁREZ” de mi DOMICILIO, he llamado a la COMPAÑÍA ASEGURADORA, la cual me informó que no se recibió ningúna LLAMADA MÍA para solicitar un MÉDICO.
    MOISÉS IBRAHIM: EX PROFESOR de la ESCUELA OFICIAL de IDIOMAS de MADRID. EX SUPERNUMERARIO de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. EX REPRESENTANTE de los TRABAJADORES del COLEGIO RETAMAR de MADRID, OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA y CORRUPTIVA del OPUS DEI, ORIGINARIO de FUNDACIONES ILEGALES, según ACREDITAN los DOCUMENTOS. EX EDUCADOR del ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR durante TREINTA y TRES AÑOS, la MISMA EDAD de CRISTO en la TIERRA, SEDE de SAQUEOS de las ARCAS PÚBLICAS, BUNKER del TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL y CENTRO de MALEDUCACIÓN, donde se EDUCAN ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, concretamente donde he EDUCADO dos GENERACIONES, que en la ACTUALIDAD están OSTENTANDO la SUBLIMIDAD de los PODERES POLÍTICOS, ECONÓMICOS, RELIGIOSOS y DEPORTIVOS en NUESTRA QUERIDA ESPAÑA.

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    COLEGIO RETAMAR: OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA Y CORRUPTIVA DEL OPUS DEI. ¿QUÉ ES OPUS DEI? OPUS SECT DEI? OPUS SEX DEI? OPUS SIN DEI? OPUS GAY DAY? OPUS DEI SUCK DEI?
    1. El OPUS DEI es la SANTA MAFIA UNIVERSAL.
    2. BUNKER IMPERIAL de los ASALTOS a la RAZÓN.
    3. FORTALEZA del TERRORÍSMO LEGAL ESPIRITUAL.
    4. CUARTEL de ENTRENAMIENTO de SABATAJES.
    5. CENTRO de ATRACOS a las ARCAS PÚBLICAS.
    6. PLANETA de LORD BLACK MONEY CONTROL.
    6. CAMPO de ADHIESTRAMIENTO de CRUZADOS.
    7. CAMINO que ENCAMINA 999 CAMINOS del MAL.
    8. SEDE de PROSTITUCIÓN con DERECHOS HUAMOS.
    9. EJÉRCITO TERRENAL de TRAFICANTES de ALMAS.
    10. MANDO de PIRATERÍA de DIRECCIÓN ESPIRITUAL.
    11. MONASTERIO BÉLICO de GUERREROS de DIOS.
    12. BOMA de RACIMO mutiladora de LIBERTADES.
    13. PRELATURA alzada por los LAVADOS CEREBRALES.
    14. PLAGA de INSECTOS de TRANSTORNOS MENTALES.
    15. COMANDANCIA que está ligada a la PERVERSIDAD.
    16. OBRA de SATANIDAD hasta la PLENA ETERNIDAD.
    17. IDEOLOGÍA identificada con la CULTURA de CRUELDAD.
    18. TEOLOGÍA clonada de la TEORÍA SIONISTA de HERTZL.
    19. CREDO basado que el SANTO SUPERMAN ESCRIVÁ es
    NUESTRO PADRE que está a la DIESTRA de DIOS PADRE.
    20. CATECÍSMO SINGULAR que GUARDA bajo LLAVES, por
    tener DIRECTRICES que no son de ÁMBITO UNIVERSAL.
    21. CRUZADOS que SURFEAN sobre las DESGRACIAS de
    los DESAMPARADOS y el sustendo de los POBRES.
    22. BANDA que transforma el PAN de POBRES en RUEDAS
    de MOLINOS o HOSTIAS SAGRADAS para los ALTARES.
    23. AMIGOS de DIOS CLONADO que se atavian en SOTANITAS
    INVISIBLES para cometer ATRACOS contra BIENES COMUNES.
    24. GRUPO PROMOTOR que centraliza su APOSTOLADO en la
    adquisición de PARCELAS TERRENALES y CELESTIALES, del
    DINERO procedente de los ASALTOS a las ARCAS PÚBLICAS.
    25. SANTIDAD que se santifica con LORD BLACK MONEY, santifica
    las FUNDACIONES ILEGALES y santifica a los demás con los
    SAQUEOS de ARCAS PÚBLICAS, la SEGURIDAD SOCIAL, las
    SUBVENCIONES ESTATALES, la COMUNIDAD de MADRID y los
    PROPIOS EMPLEADOS. YO PREDICO y los DOCUMENTOS HABLAN.

    MOISÉS IBRAHIM: EX PROFESOR de la ESCUELA OFICIAL de IDIOMAS de MADRID. EX SUPERNUMERARIO de la SANTA SUPREMA MAFIA del OPUS DEI. EX REPRESENTANTE de los TRABAJADORES del COLEGIO RETAMAR de MADRID, OBRA CORPORATIVA, LUCRATIVA y CORRUPTIVA del OPUS DEI, CENTRO EDUCATIVO ORIGINARIO de FUNDACIONES ILEGALES y CONTROL de LORD BLACK MONEY, según ACREDITAN los DOCUMENTOS. EX EDUCADOR del ILUSTRE COLEGIO RETAMAR, MADRASAH TALIBANA Y TRIBALISTA, durante TREINTA y TRES AÑOS, la MISMA EDAD de CRISTO en la TIERRA, SEDE de SAQUEOS de las ARCAS PÚBLICAS, BUNKER del TERRORÍSMO ESPIRITUAL, CENTRO DE MALEDUCACIÓN, una INSTITUCIÓN EDUCATIVA CADUCA y NO EDUCA, donde se EDUCAN ALTEZAS y REALEZAS, concretamente donde he EDUCADO dos GENERACIONES, que en la ACTUALIDAD están OSTENTANDO la SUBLIMIDAD de los PODERES POLÍTICOS, ECONÓMICOS, RELIGIOSOS y DEPORTIVOS en NUESTRA QUERIDA ESPAÑA. REVOLUCIONAD contra el OPUS DEI que OCASIONA PROBLEMAS MENTALES , PRODUCE TRANSTORNOS de PERSONALIDAD, DEVORA el PAN de los POBRES para FABRICAR RUEDAS de MOLINOS o HOSTIAS SAGRADAS para los ALTARES del que fué MARQUÉS de PERALTA y en la ACTUALIDAD es el SANTO SUPERMAN de la IGLESIA CATÖLICA. El OPUS DEI es autor de la DECADENCIA ECONÓMICA y el DESEMPLEO.