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Allegations of abuse in the Church double in a year

By on Thursday, 28 July 2011

Baroness Scotland chairs the safeguarding commission (Ian Nicholson/PA Wire)

Baroness Scotland chairs the safeguarding commission (Ian Nicholson/PA Wire)

The number of people in the Catholic Church accused of sexual or physical abuse has more than doubled between 2009 and 2010, according to the latest annual report by the National Catholic Safeguarding Commission (NCSC).

The Commission has attributed the rise to the papal visit, during which Pope Benedict met victims of abuse and professionals employed to safeguard the young and vulnerable within the Catholic Church.

The report, released today, said: “The NCSC is both challenged and heartened by the fact that last year and, in particular, following the Pope’s visit more people have felt confident enough to come forward to report incidents of abuse in the hope of finding some kind of reconciliation and closure.”

In 2010 92 individuals were accused of some form of abuse compared with 43 people in 2009.

The Commission, chaired by Baroness Patricia Scotland of Asthal, found that of the total allegations of abuse made last year, the majority were alleged to have taken place during the 1970s or earlier. Last year there were 83 allegations of abuse relating to 92 alleged abusers and 103 victims. Eighteen of the victims alleged that they were abused in 2010, the same number who in 2009 had alleged abuse occurring that year.

Eighty-three allegations were brought forward in 2010. The vast majority of incidents, 63 out of 83, are alleged to have occurred during the 1970s or earlier.
The report identifies five forms of abuse, including sexual, physical, emotional, neglect and possession of child abuse images.

Of the total 92 individuals suspected of abuse 71 are accused of sexual abuse and 15 are alleged to have committed physical abuse. From the accusations made in 2010 of sexual abuse, two alleged abusers were from female religious orders and 61 were priests.

The NCSC has, for the first time, collated statistics on a national scale detailing abuse of vulnerable adults within the Church, which currently stands at a total of 20 allegations of abuse in 2010, including financial and material exploitation.

The NCSC has also examined efforts to safeguard vulnerable people within the Catholic Church. It reports that the proportion of parishes across England and Wales with at least one safeguarding representative currently stands at 96.3 per cent, while Covenants of Care, which are drawn up to monitor a parish where an incidence of abuse is alleged to have occurred, have risen in total from 212 in December 2009 to 266 in December 2010.

The Commission also reported on the instances of laicisation in cases of clerical abuse. It states: “Where an allegation of abuse results in a member of the clergy or religious serving a prison sentence, or where the risk they are considered to pose to members of the Church community, permanent removal from the clerical or religious state (laicisation) is always considered. There have been 37 such laicisations since 2001.”

The report from the NCSC places a heavy emphasis on the role of Pope Benedict XVI in attempting to heal rifts and wounds within the Church following highly publicised incidences of clerical abuse in the run up to the papal- visit.

The report features a personal account of the Pope’s meeting with victims of abuse during his state visit to Britain last year. The eye-witness states: “He [Benedict XVI] prayed briefly and blessed us all. Perhaps more important on this occasion he spoke to each and everyone. He heard personal stories.

“At one point there were tears in his eyes… he told us that he would take things forward.”

On the same day that Pope Benedict met victims of abuse he addressed safeguarding professionals. He said: “It is deplorable that in such marked contrast to the Church’s long tradition of care for them, children have suffered abuse and mistreatment at the hands of some priests and religious.”

He continued: “We have all become much more aware of the need to safeguard children, and you are an important part of the Church’s broad-ranging response to the problem.”

  • Hildebrand

    Until our seminaries and bishops start to take seriously the instructions from Rome, and the express will of the Holy Father, with respect to the admission of homosexually-oriented men to the priesthood, this problem will continue to plague the Catholic Church in the developed world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    Gay men are not all child abusers!!! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    It is so easy to blame ‘the other’ the evil homosexual. In reality many many good gay men and women go to the Catholic Church and struggle through.

    Being gay is not primarily about sexual acts but about a God given humanity. This involves asking some quite difficult questions…

    In the defence of the Catholic Church it successfully draws a distinction between orientation and behaviour — but in practice this distinction isn’t really made. Try being a camp Catholic —

    But this isn’t about that! Evidently – ? Abuse is abuse. This isn’t about sexual orientation.

    Maybe all the gay priests and laity should leave? But conservatives are not prepared for the reality that would create – the Church would be completely crippled overnight. No, instead they prefer hating in the name of God and flogging the gays until they become broken people or think that’s how God wants them to be treated, or they leave the Church.

    Yes, obviously abuse has gone on – but this is not about orientation.

    I propose the Church develops exclusively gay groups to provide appropriate care and spiritual formation for the gay community — this is not some form of liberal conspiracy and I’ve not made any doctrinal points here — but it’s the only real way that the gays will be spirituality nourished in a Church context?

    Catholics struggle to talk openly and appropriately about sexuality and sex. It’s an unresolved issue, which needs to be looked at.

    But blaming the gays for abuse isn’t particularly helpful? At least I don’t think so

  • Aisake

    How easy for people to judge but to give a helping hand or to give ourselves to the work of God is a issues. People always try to comment on the lives of religious and clergy but how about we give ourselves and try the way they live each day. These religious and clergy are living in a loneliness environment and if we Catholics goers have looked down on them and tell them what they doing is wrong than don’t give comment for others to gossip about. Those of you who are homosexual that tried the issue of abuse to persuade the stand  of the Church on homosexual please it is clear that it is a sin, don’t mixed the mess up because they are totally different issues. I urge Catholics, please help you religious and Clergy even though they are wrong, he or she will not get the reward but  between you and God alone. Those of you who easily comment or pass comment on Clergy, how about ask this question “Is one of my children a priest?” ” Am allowing one of my children to become priest?”. If not than don’t give comment which is unfair to us faithful to the faith and which lead to gossip for non- Catholics.  

  • Aisake

    Homosexual is a issue and the Catholic Church’s stand is clear and understandable that is, it against the act which is gravely sinned  and always against Jesus’s teaching. Don’t try to make it a issue in the Church, all government has legalized homosexual but the Catholic Church will  against till the end. Homosexual in the Catholic Church, the answer, NO. NOT A QUESTION MARK BUT UNDERLINED AND FULL STOP. 

  • Hildebrand

    Citing a number of medical journals in
    the field of human sexuality research, Donohue explained in his
    submission to the Washington Post’s “On Faith” section that “homosexuals
    are disproportionately represented among child molesters.”
    Statistically, he said, the evidence for a “link between homosexuality
    and the sexual abuse of minors” in the general population is
    “overwhelming.”

    This link is
    borne out in the majority of sex offenses committed by priests,
    according to Donohue. “As I have said many times, most gay priests are
    not molesters, but most of the molesters have been gay.”

    In
    applying this correlation to the sex abuse crisis within the Church, he
    reiterated the findings of Roderick MacLeish Jr., who examined the full
    archives of the Archdiocese of Boston during his lawsuit against the
    Church. MacLeish represented nearly 400 victims of abuse in court, 90
    percent of whom were male, and three-quarters post-pubescent.

    Donohue
    also cited the conclusions of Robert S. Bennett, head of the National
    Review Board which released its report on sexual abuse in the Church in
    2004. “There are no doubt many outstanding priests of a homosexual
    orientation who live chaste, celibate lives,” Bennett said at the time
    of the report’s release, “but any evaluation of the causes and context
    of the current crisis must be cognizant of the fact that more than 80
    percent of the abuse at issue was of a homosexual nature.”

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=102860

  • Hildebrand

    Citing a number of medical journals in
    the field of human sexuality research, Donohue explained in his
    submission to the Washington Post’s “On Faith” section that “homosexuals
    are disproportionately represented among child molesters.”
    Statistically, he said, the evidence for a “link between homosexuality
    and the sexual abuse of minors” in the general population is
    “overwhelming.”

    This link is
    borne out in the majority of sex offenses committed by priests,
    according to Donohue. “As I have said many times, most gay priests are
    not molesters, but most of the molesters have been gay.”

    In
    applying this correlation to the sex abuse crisis within the Church, he
    reiterated the findings of Roderick MacLeish Jr., who examined the full
    archives of the Archdiocese of Boston during his lawsuit against the
    Church. MacLeish represented nearly 400 victims of abuse in court, 90
    percent of whom were male, and three-quarters post-pubescent.

    Donohue
    also cited the conclusions of Robert S. Bennett, head of the National
    Review Board which released its report on sexual abuse in the Church in
    2004. “There are no doubt many outstanding priests of a homosexual
    orientation who live chaste, celibate lives,” Bennett said at the time
    of the report’s release, “but any evaluation of the causes and context
    of the current crisis must be cognizant of the fact that more than 80
    percent of the abuse at issue was of a homosexual nature.”

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=102860

  • Hildebrand

    “As I have said many times, most gay priests are not molesters, but most of the molesters have been gay.”

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=102860

    Bill Donohue’s research points to the wisdom of Pope Benedict’s teaching:

    “Homosexuality is incompatible with the priestly vocation. Otherwise,
    celibacy itself would lose its meaning as a renunciation. It would be
    extremely dangerous if celibacy became a sort of pretext for bringing
    people into the priesthood who don’t want to get married anyway. For, in
    the end, their attitude toward man and woman is somehow distorted, off
    center, and, in any case, is not within the direction of creation of
    which we have spoken. The Congregation for Education issued a decision a
    few years ago to the effect that homosexual candidates cannot become
    priests because their sexual orientation estranges them from the proper
    sense of paternity, from the intrinsic nature of priestly being … The
    greatest attention is needed here in order to prevent the intrusion of
    this kind of ambiguity and to head off a situation where the celibacy of priests would practically end up being identified with the tendency to
    homosexuality.”

  • Hildebrand

    “As I have said many times, most gay priests are not molesters, but most of the molesters have been gay.”

    http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=102860

    Bill Donohue’s research points to the wisdom of Pope Benedict’s teaching:

    “Homosexuality is incompatible with the priestly vocation. Otherwise,
    celibacy itself would lose its meaning as a renunciation. It would be
    extremely dangerous if celibacy became a sort of pretext for bringing
    people into the priesthood who don’t want to get married anyway. For, in
    the end, their attitude toward man and woman is somehow distorted, off
    center, and, in any case, is not within the direction of creation of
    which we have spoken. The Congregation for Education issued a decision a
    few years ago to the effect that homosexual candidates cannot become
    priests because their sexual orientation estranges them from the proper
    sense of paternity, from the intrinsic nature of priestly being … The
    greatest attention is needed here in order to prevent the intrusion of
    this kind of ambiguity and to head off a situation where the celibacy of priests would practically end up being identified with the tendency to
    homosexuality.”

  • Deesis

    Those denouncing sexual abuse should be listened too. The coverups are the result of our times. Catholic’s have on the whole been corrupted by a loss of sexual morality and the firm conviction that sex is only within a life long  faithful comitment between a man and a women. Many laity, bishops. and priests are fuzzy in their thinking. Child abuse is part of a spectrum of corruptions the Church needs to expunge. Cover ups are what liberals do and they have had the upper hand in the Church for over 40 years. Ultimately Christ is being betrayed and I think our generation are perhaps more deplorable than we find able to admit. We have dismantled and destroyed thinking it “the spirit of Vatican II”. Child abuse along with other vices is one of these fruits 

  • Deesis

    Stop using little fluffy words like “gay” and “camp” instead of homosexual. I think an unflinching consideration of anatomy and the purpose of sex is crucial in considering if activities that are habitual in the created gay subculture are an appropriate expression of sexual instinct. Homosexuality as with other pathologies has its origins in childhood trauma and other maladjustments of emotional needs. IT is in itself a frustration of the sexual urge which requires a man and a woman…in a lifelong relationship.
    Sexual perversions take many forms and both express and create destructive behaviour. Whether the age is 16 or 18 or 21 these legal demarcations do not define what is perverse only legal. Jesus Christ NEVER approved of or tolerated sex outside of marriage or between members of th same sex. Societies by prohibitions and sanctions create/ discourage sexual behaviour. The Church being the heir of Greco-Roman world. The Church being 2000 years old and having had time to consider vice and virtue through its communial memory is more likely to be correct. The Church needs to judge itself by its own standards…not listen to the world or self obsessed sensualists The problem is the voices of dissent and Western materialism within the Church. These need removing as agents of child abuse within the Church.

  • Guglielmo Marinaro

    Just a few thoughts:
     
    (1) Men who sexually abuse boys can sometimes homosexual in the ordinary sense, but they usually are not. Most often they are either men whose sexual interest is solely in children (and many men who molest boys will also molest girls if they get the opportunity) or men whose sexual attraction to other adults is heterosexual.
     
    (2) There is no reason in principle why a gay man should not be a priest, but no-one should ever choose the priesthood as a way of copping out of being gay. It doesn’t work. Being gay should not be a problem, but if it is, subjectively speaking, then becoming a priest or religious will not solve it; on the contrary, it is more likely to compound it. If a stricter implementation of Pope Benedict’s ruling will result in fewer guilt-ridden gay men who have no real vocation to the priesthood getting trapped into it, then I am all for it.
     
    (3) If gay clergy were the cause of child sexual abuse, those Protestant churches in Europe which happily accept openly gay clergy – and do not impose celibacy on them either – should be putting the Catholic Church into the shade in this respect. They aren’t.
     
    (4) Anti-gay abuse will not solve the problem of child sexual abuse. In fact, it is more likely to provide a smokescreen for it. Child sexual abuse can flourish in very homophobic institutions – the Catholic Church, to take an instance at random.
     
    (5) A person who wants to molest children does not need to be a Catholic priest in order to do it. So what is it that attracts such people to the priesthood? I have yet to see this question seriously addressed. Perhaps you would like to make a start on that, Hildebrand.

  • Guglielmo Marinaro

    Just a few thoughts:
     
    (1) Men who sexually abuse boys can sometimes homosexual in the ordinary sense, but they usually are not. Most often they are either men whose sexual interest is solely in children (and many men who molest boys will also molest girls if they get the opportunity) or men whose sexual attraction to other adults is heterosexual.
     
    (2) There is no reason in principle why a gay man should not be a priest, but no-one should ever choose the priesthood as a way of copping out of being gay. It doesn’t work. Being gay should not be a problem, but if it is, subjectively speaking, then becoming a priest or religious will not solve it; on the contrary, it is more likely to compound it. If a stricter implementation of Pope Benedict’s ruling will result in fewer guilt-ridden gay men who have no real vocation to the priesthood getting trapped into it, then I am all for it.
     
    (3) If gay clergy were the cause of child sexual abuse, those Protestant churches in Europe which happily accept openly gay clergy – and do not impose celibacy on them either – should be putting the Catholic Church into the shade in this respect. They aren’t.
     
    (4) Anti-gay abuse will not solve the problem of child sexual abuse. In fact, it is more likely to provide a smokescreen for it. Child sexual abuse can flourish in very homophobic institutions – the Catholic Church, to take an instance at random.
     
    (5) A person who wants to molest children does not need to be a Catholic priest in order to do it. So what is it that attracts such people to the priesthood? I have yet to see this question seriously addressed. Perhaps you would like to make a start on that, Hildebrand.

  • Concerned Catholic

    Instead of arguing about homosexual priests, we should all spend time praying for the Church.  There is a serious crisis in the Catholic Church and we should all pray for the victims of these heinous crimes.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    How long could the Catholic Church function without gay priests?

    I support ALL gay priests leaving their ministry — this might demonstrate the hypocrisy of the Church’s 

    position toward gay people.

    Ideally we should listen to the narrative gay people offer about their relationship with God and their vocation 

    Throwing condemnation after condemnation to gay people is forcing them out of the Church and failing to

    provide appropriate spiritual formation and pastoral care.

    Gay people have a place in the Church, they have a right to be told that God loves them!

    The Gospel is meant to be Good News!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    I use the word gay because I am 26 and in youth culture gay is the preferred term to homosexual

    it’s a bit like how white people have changed the terms they use while describing black people?

    I use the word ‘camp’ to note make a distinction between the perception of someone’s sexuality with their 

    actual orientation, for example some straight men act gay. But also to note that some gay men are 

    obviously gay and are treated terribly in Church settings. 

    Obviously you will be aware that this goes against official Church teaching, and is called a sin.

    My point is that ‘camp’ men are not necessarily ‘gay’ and that straight people who hate them are 

    committing a sin in the eyes of the official Church’s teaching.

      

  • Hildebrand

    Gay people have a place in the Church. They do not have a place in the priesthood.

    As for “how could the Church function” – read what Pius XI wrote: “Let all canonic prescriptions be carefully obeyed, and let
    everyone put into practice the wise rules on this subject… Thus
    will the Church be saved much grief, and the faithful much scandal… Bishops and religious superiors should not be deterred from this needful
    severity by fear of diminishing the number of priests for the diocese or
    institute. The Angelic Doctor St. Thomas long ago proposed this difficulty, and
    answers it with his usual lucidity and wisdom: ‘God never abandons His Church;
    and so the number of priests will be always sufficient for the needs of the
    faithful, provided the worthy are advanced and the unworthy sent away.’ The same
    Doctor and Saint, basing himself upon the severe words quoted by the fourth
    Ecumenical Council of the Lateran, observes to Our purpose: ‘Should it ever
    become impossible to maintain the present number, it is better to have a few
    good priests than a multitude of bad ones.’”

  • Anonymous

    What you mean by “Catholics struggle to talk openly and appropriately about sexuality and sex” is actually “the Catholic Church does not feel the need to chatter endlessly about sex all day every day and when it does talk about it the Church will actually stand up for what it believes in. As for the point about homosexuals being “nourished” whyever should they be. The fact that a person has a perverse sexuality does not allow for a nourishment; we do not set up groups to nourish paedophiles and necrophiles. The closest that should ever be achieved is that any homosexual anywhere in the Church should be taught that a perversion of their sexuality is not a cultural identity and is not something to be shouted about to the four winds. One last thing: the issue of sex is not unresolved in the actual Catholic Church; it is clear cut and unambiguous what the Church’s teachings are it is simply that people try to avoid that fact or insult the Church for it as people today (old and young) seem to confuse people’s right not to be discriminated against with a right to behave in whatever perverse way they see fit without anybody inconveniently saying that it is wrong in any way. 

  • eric.pilon

    Has
    The Rock been negligent, breached its duty of care or committed crimes against
    god? then tell us your
    truthful stories of abuse and neglect and your views.

    Is The Rock
    built on sand like
    Christchurch?

    At C.1:Q.96, Nostradamus foretells of an iconoclastic prophet, using
    refined language to continually educate, who is raised in the Last
    Days.

    Logmion is here and says “Bring Back Petrus
    Romanus”

    Facebook Logmion
    Pilon

  • eric.pilon

    Has
    The Rock been negligent, breached its duty of care or committed crimes against
    god? then tell us your
    truthful stories of abuse and neglect and your views.

    Is The Rock
    built on sand like
    Christchurch?

    At C.1:Q.96, Nostradamus foretells of an iconoclastic prophet, using
    refined language to continually educate, who is raised in the Last
    Days.

    Logmion is here and says “Bring Back Petrus
    Romanus”

    Facebook Logmion
    Pilon

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    I think this is really offensive -

     “The fact that a person has a perverse sexuality does not allow for a nourishment; we do not set up groups to nourish paedophiles and necrophiles”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    Official Church teaching is that homosexuals are welcome in the Church and that hating gay people is a sin. 

    I think we need to clarify our terms here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenny/500505255 Michael Kenny

    Homosexuality is not an act it is an orientation - 

    Gay people have the right to be told that God loves them.

    From what you’re saying the Church should have a sign saying ‘No Gays allowed’ on the door.

  • Aisake

    The seminarians had take seriously the instructions from Rome but some clergy has abuse their power in the welfare of parishioners on their spirituals aspect and concentrate too much on earthly possession which they turn away from their basic of their ordination. Some clergy has give order rather than allowing the parishioners consent or views which is pathetic in the sense of abusing of powers which they are not following the Good Shepherd teaching as they are ordain to serve rather to be serve. If only the clergy went back to this teaching and follow Christ way of life there their will know how fortunate and how precious to be God’s instrument on earth.   

  • Aisake

    Some of the clergy has been to authoritative in the sense they give orders rather than give in ideas. Some have given their homily to harsh that let us down even though they have been doing it. They are  too confidence and self righteousness which cause problems in our parish. The misuse of Church assets is also a great concerned as they have abuse which the parish has struggle to get monetary funds. I supposed if only seminarians are also taught how to manage and value Church’s assets and this problem can be minimize.   

  • Anonymous

    The point there being that simply nourishing them does not work; allow them into the Church by all menas but there is no reason or excuse to “nourish” them in any way. It may be unpleasant to hear but the truth remains by God’s law and Rome’s that homosexuality is simply wrong as are the other two perversions that I mentioned; that may be taken as offensive but it is not meant to be a crude insult; it is simply stating a fact.

    As for homosexuality being a mere orientation this does not change anything about it being wrong. The truth remains that even the orientation is not something to be allowed by anybody who calls themselves a Roman Catholic; once again it is unpleasant to hear this but it is still the God-given truth. Of course, I accept that they cannot control a thought that occurs on the spur of the moment but the point remains that these thoughts should be surpressed as soon as possible just the same as lustful thoughts about members of the opposite sex.

  • Anonymous

    Actually from what I said the Church should not allow any form of homosexuality and always make clear that it is utterly wrong; it’s hardly a revolutionary point.

  • guest

    Please stop calling Homosexuals ‘Gays’ and use a proper descriptive word as I take that to imply normal hetoresexual people such as myself are sad or unhappy.

    When I refer to homosexuals, I mean those engaged in sexual conduct and I think the rest do as well. Those who do not engage in it are by definition not homosexual so lets stop all this nonsence about non practising homosexuals.

    I dont belive the church shoud promote division or homosexual group activety however it could do more to provide extra pastoral care along the lines of extra teachings on the consequences of sin and enhanced confessional workshops.

    Homosexuals are primarily responsible for peodphillia activety with boys so lets not try smoke bombing what is perfectly clear.

    Will God accept the petitions of the congregation from a priest who is a practising burglar or perhaps an adulterer?
     
    I know homosexuals struggle to be open but thats not because their catholic but because they know what they do is wrong, abhorent and repulsive to many.

  • mike hurcum

    Get the sign right, let it say no disordered sin is acceptable to practicing catholics. Enter if you may but leave your sinful actions outside.

  • mike hurcum

    It is not a God given orientation, it is a purely human aberration and if there is a bent gene that causes it then we have acquired that gene through sin. God can only create perfection. I visited a prison where those who committed sexual crimes were incarcerated. I talked over a long period of time with many found guilty of different crimes. A VERY SMALL MAJORITY SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE. When some in private wished to discuss what they had done, the great majority of these readily admitted they were lead into it by mentors. Those whom they discussed their problem which was male bonding with close friends. The worst offenders were teachers over 50% of the prison were at that time teachers. There were others some of whom made the hair on my arms stand up. I was told that a certain group of them had said they would convert me. There was to be a public discussion in New York some years back over the bent gene theory but the other side never came. This you can find on the ‘net somewhere in the records of the American Psychiatric Association. I still believe that these sinners should be allowed in the Church. I believe that there should be Masses offered for them even masses specifically for them but it should be preceded by a penitential service where many priests should be available for confession and if they do not confess they should not receive Him, in Holy Communion.

  • Cjkeeffe

    “Last year there were 83 allegations of abuse relating to 92 alleged abusers and 103 victims.” Is it me or does the maths not add up here. 92 alleged abusers committed 83 alledged episodes of abuse on 103 victims. My maths may be wrong but this means that 9 abusers did nothing.  
    The CTS booklet on the Abuse Crisis places abuse in its context of a oversexualisation of secular society and also the medical responce of cure and theraphy rhather then punishment.
    We should pray for the abused that the Father in Heaven will heal there wounds. That the abuser will make reparartion to the abused and seek forgiveness and recieve a just penalty from state and church and that the church will continue is journey of protecting children etc started by the then Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI.

  • guest

    The majority of people that I know that where sexually abused were abused by married men, in their own homes, when they were little girls….And although it is demeaned less important, people are overlooking that girls were also sexuality abused and often made pregnant, they were also beaten and abused.
    This is not just about the sexual abuse of boys, the beatings and the treatment of girls is constantly overlooked….I know Priests that are gay  and I know they would never, ever hurt any child. This is scapegoating gay priests, while ignoring sexual abuse of girls by priests.

  • guest

    There are plenty of straight priests that can’t control their lust too..infact more … This teaching suggests that having desire to get married makes a better priest, surely that would make the priest even more likely to seek sex….I would bet that the majority of sex abusers in the Priesthood where abused themselves or witnessed it in their homes, they were then taught that sex outside of marriage was evil, that they couldn’t say anything because that would also be evil and they were pushed into the Priesthood. Scapgoating homosexuals is too easy and means that the true picture of what happened will be repressed. Then they will wonder why nobody in Ireland goes to Mass.

  • guest

    The Catholic Church has a teaching on sexuality which is ignored in Latin America. Italy, France, Spain and Ireland. When are heterosexual Italians who have many women, and a worldwide reputation for their sexual prowess going to be told they can’t go to Mass? I don’t think Silvio Berlursconi is ex-communicated.

  • guest

    In that case of Jesus himself could enter…Nobody that enters or leaves church is without sin ordered or disordered, judging others is also a sin.

  • guest

    How many homosexual priests raped and abused girls? It is homosexual priests that got young girls pregnant and sat back while they were punished for being bad, immoral girls?

  • https://openid.org/locutus LocutusOP

    Yes, the maths do seem a bit confusing. The only way I get it to make sense is by concluding that some allegations included victims who had multiple abusers and some alleged abuses had multiple victims – where only one of the abused reported.

    We should all pray that all involved will find justice. My interest in getting a “just penalty from state”, however, is severely limited because the way things are going, and with moves being made suggesting that children have a “right to sex” at U.N., the concept of paedophilia (as a negative) might very well be gone within a generation,. Indeed, non-Christians looking into this period 50 years from now could very well be left wondering what the fuss was all about.

    I would very much settle for having all these priests kicked out of the ‘force’, preferably along with their disobedient (to the Gospel) superiors. In the same wave perhaps those priests and bishops who seem to have alternative magisteriums might also be encouraged to pursue other non-pastoral endeavours.

  • http://lxoa.wordpress.com/ shane

    Keyword: Allegations

  • Kennyinliverpool

    That’s not Church teaching…. lol

    - People are born gay…

  • Kennyinliverpool

    That’s not the logic of the Church

    – can we use that as a reference point? I don’t really care what other people might think about it.

    Homosexuality as an orientation is ‘morally neutral’ = if you want to hate the gays be more honest about it