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England to welcome the heart of Curé d’Ars

By on Wednesday, 2 November 2011

A Knights of Columbus honour guard processes with a reliquary containing the incorrupt heart of St John Vianney (Photo: CNS)

A Knights of Columbus honour guard processes with a reliquary containing the incorrupt heart of St John Vianney (Photo: CNS)

The heart of the patron saint of priests, St John Vianney, will be venerated in the Diocese of Shrewsbury next summer.

In 1818 St John Vianney was made the curé of Ars parish in the west of France, where he became famous for his pastoral work. He was canonised in 1925 by Pius XI.

The three intentions of the four-day visit of the relic are to provide an occasion of prayer for the renewal of the ministerial priesthood in the diocese, to inspire new and generous vocations, and to spur the renewal of the missions and life of all parishes in the diocese.

The precise programme will be unveiled closer to the visit but the relic is expected to visit several locations across Shrewsbury diocese to maximise the opportunity for prayer and veneration among lay people and priests.

Bishop Guy Bagnard of Belley-Ars, France, and two priests of his diocese will accompany the relics.
The visit follows a request by Bishop Mark Davies of Shrewsbury, who petitioned Bishop Bagnard in September when he and his clergy visited Ars. Bishop Bagnard later wrote to Bishop Davies to confirm that the heart of St John Vianney could be transported to Shrewsbury.

Bishop Davies spoke of his joy on hearing the news of the relics planned arrival in England. He said: “I am delighted we can welcome this relic of St John Vianney to England. The Scriptures speak of the saints as those ‘witnesses’ who encourage us in our faith. This visible reminder of the heart of a simple and extraordinary pastor will encourage us to look to that love and truth found at the heart of the Catholic priesthood, for St John Vianney said simply: ‘The priesthood is the love of the heart of Jesus.’

“This will be an invitation for everyone to pray for the renewal of the ministerial priesthood in our time, a renewed sense of mission in our parishes and for new and generous vocations for the future.”

  • Honeybadger

    Fantastic!

  • Anonymous

    Excellent news :) 

  • Mikethelionheart

    Wonderful.
    Please come to St Werburgh’s, Chester.

  • Anonymous

    A visit to every Diocese would be superb.

  • David Armitage

    The thought of carting around this shrivelled organ of a dead person horrifies me.  How on earth did they get it in the first place? Are there any other bits going the rounds? I allowed myself  a rueful smile when pieces of St Thérèse’s clothes were exhibited for public homage and hoped in vain that some voices would protest. I’ll leave it to Chaucer:And in a glas he hadde pigges
    bones. But with thise
    relikes, whan that he fond A poure person dwellynge upon lond,
    Upon a day he gat
    hym moore moneye Than that the person gat in monthes tweye; And
    thus with feyned flaterye and japes He made the person and the peple his
    apes.

  • Honeybadger

    St Therese’s clothes????? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL … and LOL some more! You are sooooo wrong about what was actually exhibited! No more clues, squire!

    So,here’s the rub: you would find a dearly departed friend or relative of yours laid out in a chapel of rest horrific? Bones of prehistoric animals at the Natural History Museum make you puke? The Elephant Man’s remains does not make you think about how he was a real, living, breathing person who suffered from a horrific condition but how hideous and grotesque he looks?

    Shallow, shallow, shallow!

    That atheist hero, Lenin, was put on display at a mausoleum in Moscow for all to see, for all to ‘venerate’ etc. etc. etc. during the dark days of the Iron Curtain. Nobody thought about protesting… nobody could because chances are they’d end up in a gulag in Siberia!

    What’s the difference, eh?

    We learn as much from the dead as from the living.

    Saint Therese and Saint John Vianney The Cure of Ars were living, breathing, exceptional people who did much for society in the service of God by their heroic virtue and actions. They are saints. In the ancient traditions of the Church, remains of saints and martyrs are kept, preserved and venerated by the faithful.

    You are sooooo in the minority, pal! If you don’t like relics of saints, then SHUT YOUR TRAP AND GO AWAY! It’s not doing you any harm, is it?

  • David Armitage

      Dear Brother or Sister in Christ,
    for the good of your eternal soul, here’s a bargain for you, on the site http://www.sistersof carmel.
    “St. Therese of the Child Jesus of Lisieux,
    the Greatest
    Saint of Modern TimesBadgeCloth touched to the relic of the Saint*Includes holy card.$4.95*
    Commercialisation and exhibition of body parts, embalmed corpses and the like, are repugnant. I maintain offical sanctioning of credulity is harmful. Bishops and hierarchies have lost much of their credibility as it is.

  • Honeybadger

    How about reading my post PROPERLY instead of being sarcastic with that limp-lettuce ad which could not stand up to your argument if you stuck a stainless steel ramrod through it and stand it in concrete.

    What is being advertised here is that there is a charge for the MATERIAL SURROUNDING the THIRD CLASS RELIC which was touched to a relic of Saint Therese. The Third Class Relic itself is… ta-daaaaa! FREE! GRATIS!

    The same goes for Lourdes water. You pay for the postage, packaging and glass/plastic container BUT NOT THE WATER because it is actually ILLEGAL to sell Lourdes water!

    Do you get me so far? I’m not holding out much hope, to be honest!

    A body part or blood of the saint is known as a FIRST CLASS RELIC.

    Property of the saint e.g. rosary, medal, clothing etc. is known as a SECOND CLASS RELIC.

    Cloth touched to any of the above is known as a THIRD CLASS RELIC.

    NB: The Roman Catholic Church categorically and strictly forbids the sale of relics.

    So, when you go to Mass, you must find the Real Presence repugnant – because, after all, it is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ.

    The relics of Saint Therese have been of enormous consolation to the faithful and not just in Catholic tradition either. It is not ghoulish nor repugnant. The faithful feel close to the saint through relics. I’ve been privileged to encounter many first and second class relics of saints down the years.

    So, no credibility has been lost, girlfriend!

  • David Armitage

    ‘Touched’ Nail

    A “touched” nail, meaning a nail that has touched a nail from the True Cross
    (the one Christ was crucified upon). This nail, for sale for $1,800, is part New
    York City relics dealer Amanda Broomer’s vast collection. Other items in her
    store include pieces of the body of Saint Thérèse (the Little Flower) made into
    paste; clothing worn by Saint Anthony of Padua; and bone fragments of Saint
    Francis of Assisi.
    You can also get cards with bits of JPII’s casssock stuck to them.  Not for sale, but you pay postage and package and an invitation to make a donation. Christies recently sold a pebble off Mount Thabor for several hundred thousand dollars guaranteed to have been trodden on by Jesus after his transfiguration.
     
    You say: So, when you go to Mass, you must find the Real Presence repugnant – because, after all, it is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ.
     This is a gratuitous insult. But it does show the ignorance engendered by the relics business Fueled by the Christian belief in the afterlife and
    resurrection, in the power of the soul, and in the role of saints as
    advocates for humankind in heaven, the veneration of relics in the Middle Ages
    came to rival the sacraments in the daily life of the medieval church. It is precisely because of my belief in  the sacraments that I find relics at best misleading and at worst a scam.

    It used to be possible to get a drop of Mary’s milk and one of Jesus’s milk teeth.

    There is one relic I find credible, the shirt and trousers of Oscar Romero, stiff with body salts and uric acid. Like Jesus at Gethsemane, he sweated in anguish and fear as he continued to celebrate the eucharist faced with the sniper who would execute him.
     
     
     

  • Mikethelionheart

    David

    Calm down, you’re just spouting garbage now.

  • David Armitage

    Do lionhearts really need the protection of anonymity?
    I don’t spout garbage, but tell youz where to find it.  True for centuries the ordinary faithful were kept in ignorance because the sacraments, most notably the Eucharist, were hidden behind a language barrier – remember what happened to those who had the temerity to translate scriptures into English? A burnable offence. Relics and idols became a substitute – and nice little earners. Any half educated Christian can vouch for the veracity of what I have said. Arguably St Peter’s Basilica is the greatest monument to simony – the sale of indulgences, although Hophuet-Boigny tried to outsize it with his Basilica of Our Lady of Peace of Yamoussoukro, They were still attaching plenary indulgences to the visit to Briain’s shores of St Thérèse’s body parts.
     
    Check out Bernadette of Lourdes.  She was exhumed three times.(CatholicPilgrims.com)  The last of these ghoulish procedures yielded relics – the doctor who carried out the procedure is named. In my country it is a criminal offence to disturb the peace of the dead.

    Try eBay for microscopic bits of Bernadette’s clothing stuck onto kitsch cards. A snip at 1$50. Don Bosco is in a different league altogther. $190 should get you a piece of hair.

    My point is that bishops and clergy should know better than to encourage these tasteless charades. Raising the issue should not be a stoning offence, much less bring on the pilory.

    Blessings

  • David Armitage

    David Armitage0 minutes ago Do lionhearts really need the protection of anonymity?
    I don’t spout garbage, but tell youz where to find it. True for centuries the ordinary faithful were kept in ignorance because the sacraments, most notably the Eucharist, were hidden behind a language barrier – remember what happened to those who had the temerity to translate scriptures into English? A burnable offence. Relics and idols became a substitute – and nice little earners. Any half educated Christian can vouch for the veracity of what I have said. Arguably St Peter’s Basilica is the greatest monument to simony – the sale of indulgences, although Hophuet-Boigny tried to outsize it with his Basilica of Our Lady of Peace of Yamoussoukro, They were still attaching plenary indulgences to the visit to Briain’s shores of St Thérèse’s body parts.

    Check out Bernadette of Lourdes. She was exhumed three times.(CatholicPilgrims.com) The last of these ghoulish procedures yielded relics – the doctor who carried out the procedure is named. In my country it is a criminal offence to disturb the peace of the dead. Try eBay for microscopic bits of Bernadette’s clothing stuck onto kitsch cards. A snip at 1$50. Don Bosco is in a different league altogther. $190 should get you a piece of hair.My point is that bishops and clergy should know better than to encourage these tasteless charades. Raising the issue should not be a stoning offence, much less bring on the pilory

  • Mikethelionheart

    David
    The name I use is of no consequence to you. I wonder why you mention it.
    You do spout garbage; and plenty of it.
    What has your latest drivel to do with the relics of a saint touring England, exactly?
    Your posts read like the rabid rantings of an evangelical.

  • David Armitage

    Ubi caritas et amor
    Ibi Deus est
    Exultemus et in ipso jucundemur Timeamus et amemus Deum vivum et ex corde diligamus nos sinceroLire la suite: http://www.greatsong.net/PAROLES-CHANTS-GREGORIENS,UBI-CARITAS-ET-AMOR,106775710.html#ixzz1d93wYJ5I

  • Mikethelionheart

    Oh well that’s a fantastic riposte, cheers for that.
    Utter genius.

  • http://twitter.com/PJTPOOAM Thomas Poovathinkal

    HE WAS NO MERE PRIEST; HE WAS AN APOSTLE IN HIS LIFE AND MINISTRY –
     
    AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL TO GET INSPIRATION FROM.

  • http://twitter.com/PJTPOOAM Thomas Poovathinkal

    HE WAS NO MERE PRIEST; HE WAS AN APOSTLE IN HIS LIFE AND
    MINISTRY –
     
    AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL TO GET INSPIRATION FROM.

  • Jamesmaherne

    I have read some of the comments and many are very sad,so lacking in correct information,
    and showing so little love,this ancient land is indeed ” mission land” I have done my own research and accept it or reject it the choice is yours the Catholic Church is indeed the church CHRIST founded,there is no government,army human invoked values,down the years various isms have tried to wipe it out its still here.
    the spiritual earthquake is coming and its closer than you think!!!!