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Al-Qaeda official said Catholics in Ireland were ‘fertile ground’ for conversion

By on Friday, 4 May 2012

Adam Gadahn, an American citizen who became a senior al-Qaeda operative (PA photo)

Adam Gadahn, an American citizen who became a senior al-Qaeda operative (PA photo)

A US al-Qaeda official concluded that Catholics were “fertile ground” for conversion, “particularly after the rage expanding against the mother church [Vatican] as a result of its scandals and policies refused by many of its public”.

American al-Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn wrote to Osama bin Laden in January 2011 and laid out reasons for reaching out to Catholics, particularly the Irish. He urged bin Laden to use public anger at the Church’s mishandling of clerical abuse to encourage Irish people to convert to Islam, according to newly declassified documents.

The letter was contained in files allegedly found at bin Laden’s Pakistan hideout after he was killed by US special forces in Abbottabad, Pakistan, last May.

The Combating Terrorism Centre, a privately funded research base at the US Military Academy at West Point, posted a number of declassified documents belonging to bin Laden on its website yesterday.

They were taken in the raid on his house.

The letter from Mr Gadahn particularly highlighted the reason for approaching the Irish, noting Ireland was not a participant in “Bush’s Crusade wars”.

It noted “the increasing anger in Ireland towards the Catholic Church after exposing a number of sex scandals and others” and speaks of the hunger of youths because of the economic downturn in Ireland.

Mr Gadahn wrote that Irish people, “who were the most religious of atheist Europe”, were moving toward secularism.

“Why do not we face them with Islam?” he asked.

He said he considered preparing a similar message to Catholics living in Arab regions, calling them to Islam: “Catholics were historically the prominent enemies of the Jews, among the other Christians. They were also the original enemies to the evangelist Protestant[s] who were the vanguard of the Crusades.

“Their public in general, these days, is more sympathetic and understanding of the Muslims, than other Protestant and Orthodox Christians,” he said.

However, he said he put off his message following backlash from an attack on a Catholic church in Iraq.

Fifty-eight people died in an attack on the Syrian Catholic Church in Baghdad on October 31, 2010, after military officials tried to end a terrorist siege of the church.

  • Fr.Thomas Poovathinkal

    QUOTE FROM JAE:

    “I can totally foresee that in the near future the western world
    particularly the European peninsula will be lost to the Muslim
    religion.”

      …CAN BE LOST ALSO TO ANY OTHER RELIGION (OR ISM) THE FOLLOWERS OF
    WHICH DO NOT ACTIVELY SEEK OUT THE TRUE GOD, THE ONE AND ONLY : JESUS
    THE LORD, SEEING WHOM IS SEEING THE FATHER WHO HAS SENT HIM AS THE ONLY
    SAVIOR OF THE WORLD.

    IF YOU ARE A TRUE CHILD OF GOD IN JESUS THE LORD, WHY NOT INTERCEDE WITH THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT IT MAY HAPPEN THE OPPOSITE WAY? WHY NOT PRAY AND WORK LIKE AN APOSTLE? LOOK AT ST.PAUL.

    DID NOT JESUS HIMSELF SAY, “PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES…….?

    THE GROWTH OF ALL SORTS OF “ISMS” IS DUE TO THE UNFAITHFULNESS  AND IRRELEVANCE OF THOSE WHO CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIANS WHOSE FAITH MOSTLY A MATTER OF RITUAL, DOGMA AND DRAMA.

    APOSTLES CAN WITNESS, PROCLAIM THE WORD (THEIR PRIMARY CONCERN; GO TO THE THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES AND VERIFY IT FOR YOURSELF), SUFFER JOYFULLY FOR THE LORD AND ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR THE LORD AND NOT JUST ARGUE OR DREAM OR SPECULATE.

  • Honeybadger

    I’m with you, Mikethelionheart!

    I am well conversant with the University of Manchester’s Celtic Studies and the University of Liverpool’s Institute of Irish Studies.

    This airhead David Lindsay thinks he’s above everybody.

    I think he went to Todumbfor University!

  • Honeybadger

    Ah, the Irish breakfast roll, bacon spuds and cabbage… what would be the Halal alternative?

    Oh, and they’ll complain now about the Angelus at 6pm? Just you wait until they get the mezzuzin calling for prayers from a minaret somewhere down Ballsbridge 5 times a day and night on RTE Television and Radio!

  • Nesbyth

    Islam is not without its own brand of sexual problems: see what’s been going on with under-age girls in the Midlands; honour killings in families; genital mutilation of women in some parts of the Islamic world etc….
    To be sure, the Catholic sex scandal is shocking and it seems lessons have been learnt and are being learnt, but don’t think this sort of thing would necessarily improve under Islam. You’d swap one set of sexual problems for another.

  • baige867

    iloveshopper.com

  • Knight

    Not to mention the ‘fertile ground’ of Irish schoolgirls for ‘grooming’ on an unimaginable scale if the convictions in Liverpool this week are anything to go by.

  • Benedict Carter

    Why are Islamic beards always so untrimmed and downright ugly? 

  • Benedict Carter

    Before he died, Ayatollah Khomeini issued various fatwahs, or rulings, on when it is permissible to anally rape one’s own infant sons and daughters. 

    The Church’s own predatory homosexual scandal is shocking indeed, but Islam’s sexual depravity is so much fouler, because it is seen as moral. It always has been thus. The Islamic Heaven is seen as a brothel, in effect: this stems from the serial depravity of its founder. 

  • Fr.Thomas Poovathinkal

    THIS IS NOT AT  ALL THE WAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, ARROGANT, VIOLENT, CLEVER, AND TOO SURE OF ONESELF.

    JESUS CAME TO SAVE ALL. THAT IS WHY HE SACRIFICED HIMSELF ON THE CROSS AS A FRAGRANT OFFERING. HE APPEALED TO THE HEAVENLY FATHER, “FATHER, FORGIVE THEM……….”

    THE SAME LORD ASKED US ALL TO FORGIVE OUR ENEMIES AND PRAY FOR THOSE WHO PERSECUTE US; MUSLIMS ARE NOT EXCLUDED BY JESUS; HE CAME TO SAVE US ALL.

    JESUS’ BLOOD IS SHED, “……FOR YOU AND FOR  ALL” SO THAT SINS MAY BE FORGIVEN.

    EVIL BEGETS EVIL…..LOVE BEGETS LOVE.

    JESUS IS ALL EMBRACING LOVE IN ACTION, EXCLUDING NONE EXCEPT THOSE WHO BEHAVE LIKE JUDAS THE BETRAYER. ONLY INDIVIDUALS CAN IMITATE JUDAS AND CHOOSE TO BE LIKE HIM. COLLECTIVITY IS NOT ACTING ON THEIR OWN AS INDIVIDUALS. THEY ARE UNDER THE ILLUSIONS CREATED BY CLEVER AND UNGODLY LEADERS : ORGANISED RELIGIONS!

    JESUS IS NOT VICIOUS CIRCLE BUT THE VIRTUOUS ONE. HE WANTS SAVE ALL INCLUDING HIS ENEMIES; THAT IS WHY HE PRAYED FOR THEM TOO.

  • Knight

    Ireland will also be ‘fertile ground’ for moslem ‘grooming’ gangs if recent convictions in Liverpool and further arrests in Rochdale are anything to go by. Indeed, such horrific abuse may already be occurring. The epidemic in England is well advanced and widespread thanks to politically correct police and media ignoring the victims for well over a decade because they did not want to appear ‘racist’ when, quite clearly, race and ‘religion’ are an issue. I pray Irish authorities will not show the same cowardice and allow the lives of young Irish girls to be blighted by such evil.

  • Fr.Thomas Poovathinkal

     
    CATHOLICS, PROTESTANTS, EVANGELICALS, BAPTISTS, LUTHERANS, PENTECOSTALS, PRESBYTERIANS,MENNONITES, METHODISTS, PLUS, PLUS, PLUS – TOTALLY SOME HUNDREDS!

    THE CHURCH BECAME CHURCHES EACH CLAIMING THE LORD JESUS’ AUTHORITY THROUGH THE RESPECTIVE LEADER-GOD!

    YOU AND I WANT TO BE WORKING TO PERPETUATE A DIVIDED DIVINE INHERITANCE AS FAITHFUL FOLLOWERS AND WORSHIPERS OF CHURCH-GODS OF THE DEAD PAST: THE LEADERS WHO DID AWAY WITH CHRIST THE LORD BY DIVIDING HIS  ONE CHURCH, HOW SAD!

    FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS THESE LEADERS KEPT ON DIVIDING THE CHURCH AND THE PEOPLE, IF WE DEPEND TOO MUCH ON THEM IS THERE ANY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE?

    WHY NOT HELP THE PEOPLE TO GET UNITED BY LOOKING FOR AMONG THE PEOPLE A UNITING FACTOR : FAITH IN THE SON OF GOD, THE SAVIOR, THE ONE AND ONLY?

    OR WE TOO WANT TO JOIN THE DEAD AND BE DEAD WITH THEM IN A UNITY OF A SORT?

    UNLESS WE ARE UNITED ACCORDING TO THE MIND OF THE LORD WE CANNOT EVANGELIZE THE WORLD – AND  FOR THIS WE OURSELVES NEED TO BE  APOSTLES FIRST. IF WE DON’T  BECOME TRUE APOSTLES, THE WORLD WILL SLIP AWAY INTO PAGANISM THE RELIGION OF THE ANTIES: THE ONES WHO OPPOSE IN PRINCIPLE AND PRACTICE THE TRUE GOD, CHRIST THE LORD.

  • Honeybadger

    The headline in William Oddie’s blog about the heinous sex crimes in Liverpool and Rochdale is absolutely spot on. Not one media person or publication said that these criminals were Muslims!

    Oh, of course! They were afraid of tarring all Muslims with the same brush and of any violent backlash/fatwa/jihad etc.  but Christians – and, in our case, Roman Catholics -have no feelings, no sense of shock and trauma for the actions of A FEW and won’t fight back in such ways.

    Our priests will continue to be verbally or physically abused in the street because they wear their clerical collar – even though they are just as heartbroken and ashamed of what their MINORITY ‘brother priests’ did to the innocents!

    Knight, if what you have stated in your post comes to fruition, will the Irish families of the victims be as angry, vitriolic and as prone to scapegoating all Muslims as they have been against the Roman Catholic Church?

    Will their commercial radio network broadcasters, like Ray D’Arcy, get away with blaming the Muslims (as he did a week or so ago with the RCC) for – as he put it ON AIR IN THE MORNING ‘f***ing up the country’ and refusing to apologise for the outburst which has upset many?

    Irish society and its secular government are equally to blame for the sex abuse down the years, not alone the clerics or religious – but they won’t take a look in the mirror themselves. 

  • Knight

    The media in Britain, and perhaps Ireland – I don’t know – are extremely anti-RC. For the most part the British media work hand-in-glove with the  government to promote islam, denigrate Christianity and smear anyone or group opposed to the spread of islam. The question I ask myself is – why? My conclusion is that cultural marxism (political correctness) is being used to destroy and expunge centuries of Christian culture, history and heritage so that nothing will stand in the way of the New World Order which currently manifests itself on this side of the Atlantic as the EU. Great, great trouble lies ahead. We only have to look at countries like Iraq, Egypt, Syria and Lebanon in recent times to see what truly awaits us as islam grows ever more powerful across all of Europe.

  • Zoobie1

     Ukranians (for the most part are not orthodox ) they have an Eastern Rite faith, with married clergy BTW, but they are in communion with Rome.  We have a Ukranian parish in our city, named for the Blessed Mother.