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English bishop’s ordination to be broadcast in schools

By and on Friday, 21 September 2012

Masses at St John's Cathedral are now broadcast on the internet

Masses at St John's Cathedral are now broadcast on the internet

Up to 30,000 pupils in Catholic schools in the Diocese of Portsmouth will be able to watch the episcopal ordination of Mgr Philip Egan on screens in their schools.

The ordination, and all subsequent services from St John’s Cathedral, will be streamed live on the internet here. A spokesman said the “vast majority” of schools in the diocese will be watching some of the two-hour Mass.

Archbishop Vincent Nichols of Westminster will preside at the Mass, which begins at 2.30pm on Monday. It will also be attended by Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, 24 bishops and over 100 priests and deacons from the Portsmouth and Shrewsbury dioceses and elsewhere.

This week Bishop-elect Egan, previously vicar-general of Shrewsbury, wrote a heartfelt letter of farewell to his parishioners.

Writing in the autumn edition of the Shrewsbury Catholic Voice the bishop-elect of Portsmouth said: “It is impossible to express the mixture of emotions and thoughts all of this raises. It is hard to leave. I have been a priest of our Diocese of Shrewsbury for 28 years, even though 17 of them I have spent in apostolates elsewhere in Cambridge, Boston and Oscott, Birmingham.

“Altrincham is my home. It is there that my father and my family live, and Portsmouth is a long way away. I feel very deep bonds with the priests and people of our diocese. The last four years, I have totally given myself as the parish priest of Our Lady and St Christopher’s, Romiley.”

In his letter, the bishop-elect of Portsmouth described the run-up of events before the unexpected request from Pope Benedict XVI.

After a summons from the nuncio, Archbishop Antonio Mennini, Mgr Egan travelled to meet him. He said: “The archbishop was truly gracious. He told me that the Holy Father wanted me to be the next Bishop of Portsmouth and that he wanted me to accept. Feeling somewhat overwhelmed I asked to spend some time in prayer in the nunciature chapel. An hour or so later I emerged and wrote the letter of acceptance to the Holy Father. The nuncio telephoned Bishop Mark Davies and asked me to telephone Bishop Crispian Hollis to tell him the news. I then left Wimbledon to make my way back to Romiley.”

He added: “Everything seemed unreal. I immediately went to Westminster Cathedral to pray before the Blessed Sacrament and to visit the shrine of St John Southworth, to whom I have had a devotion since my university days.”

He concluded the article by asking parishioners for their prayers in his new role as bishop.

  • Just_a_simpleton

    The priests and people of Portsmouth are blessed with their new bishop.

  • Adam

    Here’s hoping Bishop Egan follows Bishop Davies’ lead with reorganising his Cathedral.

  • Basil Loftus

    Our family have prayed and waited a long time for this to happen.  

  • AnimaChristi

    I sincerely hope and pray that the diocese of Portsmouth will have the guidance and help it needs to reclaim the true spirit of Catholicism.  We desperately need to heal the wounds made by the misinterpretation of Vatican II.  A more ‘traditional’ approach is what is needed to restore real reverence and ‘identity’. 

    A great day for the diocese.

  • Basil Loftus

    Actually we need a more Faithful one in which the teaching of the 2nd Vatican Council is triumphantly promoted.

  • teigitur

    Thats been tried. Does not work. Have a look around at whats left of the Church. There are none so blind………………..

  • Adam

     Yes, the teaching, not the spirit.

  • Lazylyn

    I think it is marvellous that so many children will be able to see this live ! 

  • Tristan

    I know I’m just a benighted Anglo-Catholic, but surely Bishops are consecrated, as opposed to ordained?

  • Basil Loftus

    The spirit of the council is the Holy Spirit!

  • Charles Martel

     Are Catholics obliged to believe every Council is inspired by the Holy Ghost? I think not, in which case your statement above is simply an assertion, an opinion, with no evidence to back it up. Considering all the confusion and damage to the faith of Catholics resulting from this Council, it seems hardly possible that it was inspired by the Holy Ghost.

  • JabbaPapa

    Both terms are acceptable, although depending on this or that particular context, one or the other may be preferable.

    Sacramentally, an elevation to the Episcopate actively changes the nature of the priest’s received Sacrament of Holy Orders, so that in this sense it’s better to speak of a new ordination ; doctrinally, on the other hand, that priest has already received the Sacrament, so that in this other sense it’s better to speak of a consecration.

    Look at it this way : from the internal point of view of the Ordo, the priest is being re-ordinated from priest to bishop ; hence ordained.

    From the external more doctrinal view of the nature of the Sacrament, his existing Sacrament is not being received again, but rather renewed ; hence consecrated.

  • JabbaPapa

    Are Catholics obliged to believe every Council is inspired by the Holy Ghost?

    Yes — with the exception of a very small number of Councils that have been denounced as false ones by our Popes.

    (not that I agree with Basil Loftus’ outrageous claim that the so-called “spirit of the council” is the Holy Spirit)

  • Gelsatius

    The cathedral sanctuary us an absolute mess to the point that it completely violates the divine “Holies of Holies. When will Latin Catholics regain proper church buildings in and outside ?

  • Basil Loftus

    I expect that the lady who takes communion to the sick will be there, she’s always kind enough to bring the blessed sacrament into the cathedral cafe so we can have coffee in the Lord’s presence.. 

  • AnimaChristi

    What exactly would you like to see promoted Mr Loftus.  My perception is that Vatican II has misguidedly turned the Holy Mass into something which is palatable to all, and is not too far removed from the Church of England Liturgy;  surely not the promotion of the one true Church .  True Faith (a suprenatural gift of God, freely bestowed upon us for the sanctification and salvation of our souls) understands that there are elements of its teaching which require acceptance and obedience even when such teaching is at odds with an increasingly secular society.  We need the strength and courage to acknowledge that Vatican 2 was not the correct course of action.  As for the Blessed Sacrament being taken into the cathedral cafe . . .  I shudder, as the Blessed Sacrament should be be taken to the recipient straight from Holy Mass.

  • Guest

    It is often the ladies who take care of the sick and visit the lonely for coffee: what marvellous training for the Diaconate!

  • Adam

     With respect even you don’t believe that. The fact you haven’t capitalised the first use of spirit but have the second proves my point somewhat.

  • Rich

    Coffee in the Lord’s presence? Would he like to come to the disco too? Perhaps a trip down the pub at lunch time?

  • Rich

    You have a point. I’ve never been to the cathedral, could you just let me know who sits in the chairs behind the cathedra / behind the curtain??

  • Richard

    Beautiful Cathedral, although the other Norwich cathedral (Holy and Undivided Trinity) is also rightfully Catholic. Perhaps someday a bishop would have the courage to demand a return of that stolen Church.

  • paulsays

    lol I think we should be able to get over th reformation 500 years later.

  • Fintan

    Not correct – Catholic bishops are ordained and consecrated. Not one and the same thing., Anglican bishops are consecrated

  • Msmtimms

    This is terrible a consecration of a bishop is suppose to be a sacred moment. Having it televised in schools and internet. What next consecration by the world wide web ?
    Some things should not be done this way and of course it takes 3 bishops to consecrate a bishop so why the 24! OOh perhaps they all want the fame of being televised on the TV for all to see, What a mockery. what has happened to being simple Men of God !

  • JabbaPapa

    Not correct – Catholic bishops are ordained and consecrated

    erm, isn’t that in fact exactly what I said ?

  • Basil Loftus

    Au contraire, it has worked! Thanks to the changes introduced by the Second Vatican Council the Catholic Church has been able to survive the cultural revoltion and media invasion that has occured since WWII.     

  • John

     500 years is just a blink of an eye in the face of eternity and justice. At the very least those churches should be shared with us; how about them getting over themselves.

  • teigitur

    Yeah! Right!

  • paulsays

    Its not healthy for any organisation to live 500 years in the past. Any wrong-doing was committed probably over 15 generations ago.

    Therefore blaming at this stage is quite pointless. Like the Catholic Church being blamed for the brutality of the Crusades – how exactly are we meant to be responsible for something that we have not taken part in.

  • AnimaChristi

    I disagree.  The Second Vatican Council has led to a Church where there is too much in the way of ‘People Power’, and not enough in the way of reverence.  The very idea of the Blessed Sacrament being taken into a cafeteria is disrespectful.  Perhaps our new Bishop will do something to address this as it is clearly unacceptable that someone in a position of such trust should do this.  I should not appreciate it if I thought that the Blessed Sacrament was being given to me by someone who had stopped off for a coffee and a chat on the way.  Which is more important, socialising or performing this important ministry?  Perhaps this sort of role should once again be reserved to ordained priests?  This would not have happened pre Vatican 2.

  • Stephen

    Would such a bishop like to assume the financial responsibility of looking after the “other Norwich cathedral”? Or would he be happy for the Anglicans to retain that responsibility?

  • Mark

     Look, 250 years after Napoleon stole priceless artifacts from Egypt the French government returned them. 70 years after the Holocaust Swiss banks were forced to return a huge amount of Jewish gold. When property is concerned it continues being theft if you live in a house stolen by your grandfather from your neighbor’s grandfather. The churches are still there and the Catholic church is still there so reparation is still possible and desirable.

  • http://twitter.com/karlmeyer karl meyer

    Will non-catholic children in these schools be able to opt out of watching this video and perhaps get on with proper school work?

  • http://twitter.com/karlmeyer karl meyer

    Even the non-catholic and/or atheist ones forced to watch?

  • UAMS

    If you’re in a Catholic School, it’s part of your identity.  If you don’t like it, take your children out and put them in the (usually lower standard) State School.  Just a thought.

  • UAMS

    I think the Holy Spirit forgot about Vatican II. Either way, He’s on His way to rectifying the problems caused by selfish agendas from the past fifty years.  

  • JabbaPapa

    whoooops you’re forgetting the Dawkins-Hitchensite dogma that children can neither be atheist or catholic or muslim etc !!!

    Must do better next time !!!!

  • http://twitter.com/karlmeyer karl meyer

     I might remind you that many catholic schools *are* state schools and not all pupils are catholic.

  • Clare

    I am delighted by the live stream. My 5
    year old daughter watched it at school this afternoon. She is part of the future of our church.  It is an important part of her formation, and the Catholic education that I have implicitly opted into by sending her to a Catholic school, that she understood (well enough to tell her teacher) that her mum was there.  I had explained to her that
    the reason I could not drop her at school today was that I was going to an event
    where they would “create” a new Bishop. It has opened a discussion about lots of
    new (to her) symbolism – crozier etc. How is this bad for the future of the Catholic
    Church???  A number of previous posters could usefully note that Archbishop Nichols, in his homily said “It is not a coming together round opinion or taste or
    ecclesiastical fashion, but a binding together in search of the truth in,
    through and with our Risen Saviour within the ‘communio’ of the
    Church.“ 

  • Apostolic

    I trust that Bishop Egan will not delay in restoring the sanctuary of his cathedral and replace that vacuous Star Trek monstrosity, based on some sort of self-regarding bishop-cult rather than the centrality of the Holy Eucharist.

  • Apostolic

    Yes, Adam. You anticipated my comment (above).

  • Phil

    I sincerely hope not. What century are you in?

  • Apostolic

    I’m in the 21st century. The sanctuary is in the 1960s, with all the silly plastic and plywood sets of the Star Trek series. From your comment, you appear to be stuck there too. Time to catch up with the 21st century and reconnect with the Church of the ages.

  • scary goat

     Our school policy is that parents are “allowed” to remove their children from religious education and events but they strongly advise against it.  If someone is THAT anti-Catholic, why would they put their children in a Catholic school? Most non-Catholics choose a Catholic school for a reason.  It would defeat the object a bit to choose a Catholic school then remove your child from that which gives the school its identity.

  • scary goat

     If you don’t like that one, you should see ours :-(
    In the picture at least, that one looks quite magnificent in comparison.

  • scary goat

     Mr. Loftus, could you please be a bit more clear in your posts.  I find them very confusing.  I am never sure if you really mean what you seem to be saying or whether you are being sarcastic.  Maybe it is me being dense, but I always get the feeling you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth.  It is most unhelpful as I am never quite sure what you are trying to say. 

  • http://twitter.com/karlmeyer karl meyer

    If a school has the best academic record and/or is nearest why should the religion of a pupil be of any concern to anyone except that child?  Are you suggesting that non-catholic children should be excluded from a catholic, state funded, school

  • scary goat

     There is a difference between non-Catholic and anti-Catholic.  State-funded means tax-payer funded and Catholics are tax payers too.  In addition to that the Church pays 10% of the funding, and like taxes, that means the Church going Catholics who contribute.  Catholic schools take many non-Catholic children and as I said above, they can be withdrawn from RE etc if the parents so wish.  What never seems to occur to people is that Catholic schools have their good results etc. BECAUSE they are Catholic, not by pure chance.  I would not put my children in a school, however good their results or however close it was to my house if the ethos of the school conflicted with what I believe to be in my child’s best interests. So are you suggesting that an anti-Catholic family should take advantage of what a Catholic school has to offer because it is Catholic and subsidised by Catholics whilst rejecting the ethos of that school which is what makes it what it is?

  • http://twitter.com/karlmeyer karl meyer

     Absolutely – I pay the taxes that funded the school so why shouldn’t I use the school.

  • scary goat

     Ok, that’s good, welcome then!  Even if you remove your kids from RE etc, I expect they will make friends and otherwise imbibe some of the ethos of the school.  Can’t be a bad thing.  ;-)