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Archbishop Nichols ends ‘Soho Masses’ after six years

By on Wednesday, 2 January 2013

Archbishop Nichols (Photo: Mazur/catholicchurch.org.uk)

Archbishop Nichols (Photo: Mazur/catholicchurch.org.uk)

Archbishop Vincent Nichols of Westminster has announced that Masses in Soho organised for gay people are to end.

He also revealed that the church where the Masses took place will be entrusted to the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham.

The fortnightly “Soho Masses” at Our Lady of the Assumption Church in Warwick Street were established by the diocese almost six years ago. They were intended to be “particularly welcoming to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered Catholics, their parents, friends and families”.

Archbishop Nichols said today that, while the Masses will stop, pastoral care of the community will continue at the Jesuit Farm Street church in Mayfair on Sunday evenings.

He also announced that in Lent Our Lady of the Assumption church will be “dedicated to the life” of the ordinariate. The archbishop said: “I hope that the use of this beautiful church, in which the young John Henry Newman first attended Mass, will enable Catholics in the ordinariate to prosper and to offer to others the particular gifts of the ordinariate.”

A statement from the Soho Masses Pastoral Council, which organised the Masses, said: “Following several weeks of reflection on the benefits and potential challenges which it represents to our pastoral outreach to the LGBT Catholic Community on behalf of the Diocese of Westminster, the Soho Masses Pastoral Council is pleased to accept Archbishop Vincent Nichols’ invitation to transfer our base of activity from the Church of Our Lady of the Assumption and St Gregory to the Church of the Immaculate Conception at Farm Street.

“We are also very grateful to the Jesuit Community at Farm Street for the welcome and hospitality they have offered there as well as to the Provincial and Superior of the Society.

“The purpose of the Soho Masses has been, and remains, to encourage the LGBT Catholic Community to participate fully in the life of the Church, the diverse body of Christ, through participation in the Mass, and through shared prayer. In this we have become victims of our own success, in terms of the number of people who have joined the Eucharistic community of our congregation.

“This means that, while the body of the church in Warwick Street is still adequate to our number, the lack of other facilities in the 18th-century building has become a limiting factor in organising social and pastoral activity and prayer, in particular for elderly, infirm or disabled people.

“We therefore look forward with much anticipation to the opportunity of using the greater space offered by the Church of the Immaculate Conception, and, since we have kindly been relieved of our responsibility of organising the Mass, to respond positively to the archbishop’s challenge to develop our pastoral work in this ‘new phase’ of our peripatetic existence.

“The Masses at Farm Street will, clearly, continue to be at the heart of our life in communion, and of our pastoral activity, and we look forward to participating fully in them. We are sure those priests with connections to Farm Street who have ministered to us at Warwick Street in the past will make us feel especially welcome.

“Our only reservation regarding the transfer of base is that our title becomes somewhat of a misnomer, in that we shall be in Mayfair, rather than in Soho. However, given the value of the title ‘Soho Masses’ we shall continue to use it.”

Statement from the Diocese of Westminster
2 January 2013

Pastoral Care

1. Many people come to the Church with the hope of finding understanding, compassion, mercy and truth. The Church endeavours to respond to their hope through the provision of pastoral care. For many years now the Diocese of Westminster has sought to extend the pastoral care of the Church to those who experience same-sex attraction. This care has been motivated by an awareness of the difficulties and isolation they can experience and by the imperative of Christ’s love for all. In recent years this pastoral care has focused on the celebration of Mass at Our Lady of the Assumption Church in Warwick Street.

2. Over these years, the situation of people with same-sex attraction has changed both socially and in civil law. However the principles of the pastoral care to be offered by the Church and the Church’s teaching on matters of sexual morality have not. First among the principles of pastoral care is the innate dignity of every person and the respect in which they must be held. Also, of great importance, is the teaching of the Church that a person must not be identified by their sexual orientation . The moral teaching of the Church is that the proper use of our sexual faculty is within a marriage, between a man and a woman, open to the procreation and nurturing of new human life. As I stated in March 2012, this means ‘that many types of sexual activity, including same-sex sexual activity, are not consistent with the teaching of the Church. No individual, bishop, priest or lay-person, is in a position to change this teaching of the Church which we hold to be God-given.’ (Catholic Herald article 17 March 2012). This is the calling to which we must all strive.

3. At this point, and after six years of the pastoral care offered at Our Lady of the Assumption Church, it is time for a new phase. Two considerations give shape to this new phase. The first is to recall that the original aim of this pastoral provision at Warwick Street was to enable people with same-sex attraction ‘to enter more fully into the life of the Church’ ‘specifically within the existing parish structures’ (Diocese of Westminster press statement 2 Feb 2007). The second is the importance of recognising that there is a distinction to be made between the pastoral care of a particular group and the regular celebration of the Mass. The Mass is always to retain its essential character as the highest prayer of the whole Church. This ‘universal’ character of the Mass is to be nurtured and clearly expressed in the manner of every celebration. The purpose of all pastoral care, on the other hand, is to encourage and enable people, especially those who are in difficult circumstances, to come to participate fully and worthily in the celebration of the Mass in the midst of the whole Church, the people summoned by the Lord to give him, together, worthy service and praise.

4. I am, therefore, asking the group which has, in recent years, helped to organise the celebration of Mass on two Sundays of each month at Warwick Street now to focus their effort on the provision of pastoral care. This includes many of the activities which have recently been developed and it is to be conducted fully in accordance with the teaching of the Church. Such pastoral care will include support for growth in virtue and holiness, the encouragement of friendship and wider community contacts, always with the aim of helping people to take a full part in the life of the Church in their local parish community. It will not include the organisation of a regular Mass. In order to assist in this important work, I am grateful to the Jesuit Fathers of the Parish of the Immaculate Conception, Farm Street who have agreed to make premises available on Sunday evenings and are ready to extend a welcome to this group. I have asked Mgr Seamus O’Boyle to continue to offer my support and guidance for this group.

5. At the same time, the Church of Our Lady of the Assumption is being dedicated to the life of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham for their groups in central London. I hope that the use of this beautiful Church, in which the young John Henry Newman first attended Mass, will enable Catholics in the Ordinariate to prosper and to offer to others the particular gifts of the Ordinariate.

6. These new arrangements are to come into effect during Lent 2013.

An account of how the “gay-friendly” Masses first began can be read here.

  • JabbaPapa

    ????

    It is blatantly obvious to one and all that practicing homosexuals have not only formed the general body of these “congregations”, but that they have been involved in the active promotion of such sexual activities, contrary to both the contents of the Catholic teaching, and (far more importantly) against the very nature of the Holy Communion of all Catholics with each other and with God, by setting themselves up in an appalling liturgical ghetto culture that is directly and violently opposed to the Catholicity itself.

  • Max

     Please Archbishop Nichols you must speak out against The Liverpool Care
    Pathway elderly people are being Murdered in hospital because of their
    age . Doctors are getting a bonus for putting people on the Liverpool
    Care Pathway. Top Doctors have spoken out against it. I am asking you
    again PLEASE SPEAK OUT before any more elderly people die an agonizing
    death

  • Charlemagne

    I don’t think gay people are trying to change the church. It is the church which is bizarrely pursuing them…and to what end one wonders?

  • Max

    Does Archbishop Nichols know that the elderly are dying an agonizing death in hospitals . I can not understand why he has not spoken out about the Liverpool Death Pathway. Each day you remain silent more people are put to death. How many more must die before you act?

  • Angela

    Thanks be  to God that the twice monthly Masses have been stopped.  I pray that the people with SSA will receive help to make their lives pure and holy.

  • http://twitter.com/coach4creatives Kevin O’Neill

    You may notice I liked your post . Mea culpa -I meant to click reply – it was a slip of my mouse. ! Not that I didn’t like it. 

    ‘LIBERAL’ is a subjective term of course – but I would not count Cardinal Brady as a liberal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seán_Brady
    I’d say he is old-school – swearing kids to secrecy rather than trying to stop Fr Brendan Smith abusing repeatedly. 

    Nor would I tag Cardinal Desmond Connell as anything other than an arch traditionalist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Connell
    He went back to the 16th century doctrine of ‘mental reservation’ to explain his part in the cover up of paedophilia. 

    Now teigitur, you may have been surrounded by happy-clappy moral relativists who couldn’t put a sermon together. But I feel that at the TOP of the church they are as dogmatic (and IMHO wrong) as they come. 

    My diagnosis of the last 25 years in Ireland is that the established Church betrayed its flock through arrogance, pride and stunning levels of hypocrisy. And not by pandering to the Spirit of the Age (as athelstane puts it). They didn’t. 

    Anyway – can’t rabbit on any more, gotta dash. I’lI just make Mass, if I can find my rainbow flag, and of course my tambourine.   ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/terri.hemker Terri Hemker

     Um, wrong story, Bub! That was spoken to the woman caught in adultery. He never said any such thing to the Samaritan woman.

  • http://www.facebook.com/terri.hemker Terri Hemker

    Absolutely that is the thought of the Church hierarchy, that every bit of disssension shall be forbidden. As always you are not allowed to have any thoughts of your own. It is ‘pray, pay, and obey, the usual story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/terri.hemker Terri Hemker

     How about pastoral care for the pastorally pedophilial inclined?

  • Mollyb

    “The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies
    is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered,
    constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with
    respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust
    discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are
    called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians,
    to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may
    encounter from their condition.”  Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 2358

  • Mollyb

     “their Church”  …what were you doing there in “their Church”anyway?

  • Sweetjae

    Christian Love is not without Christian Justice. It is out of Christian Love we say to gays to stop living a homosexual life because it puts their souls in jeopardy.

  • Sweetjae

    Diversity is different than recalcitrant sinning. Jesus said to the sinner, “sin no more”. We would rather follow Him than you or government anytime of the day.

  • Sweetjae

    The distinction seems to escape modernists. Nicely put.

  • teigitur

    Mass at 8.30 on a thursday night. I doubt it. Not in the Dublin of today.
     You are of course correct abut betrayal of the flock through arrogance, pride and hypocisy. But these are exactly the people who think the rules do not apply to them.
     “Traditionalist” does not just mean folllowing Church teaching on social, moral issues, but proper liturgy, proper education, proper formation, prayer time.
      AB Brady not a modernist!!? lol… Have you seen the state of the sanctuary in Armagh Cathedral? No self-respecting Bishop would have allowed that. The same pertains to the Pro-Cathedral and Card. Connell, who, was an academic, but a modernist one, through and through.
     These Churchmen had good principles but no idea of justice and how to put it into practice.

  • Gildaswiseman

    Yes! So very often in life “the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak”.

  • Gildaswiseman

    Don’t be so ridiculous! Of course I do not dissent against the teaching of the Church, and neither does the Priestly Society of Pius the X for that matter, though I do not expect you to begin to understand that fact. As for myself I know the Church’s teaching,comprehensively.A lifetime of study and  Sensus Fidie.
     You are the dissenter and you disgracefully accuse our Catholic saints and Pope of being homosexuals.If they are religious then they have taken vows of chastity. if they break their vow then they are in a state of mortal sin and there is only one remedy for that. However that is nor for you or me to judge. Maybe you confuse sensitivity and gentleness with homosexuality, who knows? 
    As for the teaching of the Church on this matter. I won’t quote the vast amount of condemnation of the Practice of homosexuality  by the Church over the ages. I will instead quote from the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
    “Chastity and homosexuality2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,140 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”141 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

  • Hazgraz

    IF  the Catholic Church should be a place where Catholics worship according to the teachings of the Catholic Church AND  not be a meeting place for those that follow the Religion of Homosexuality, the Church would have an even GREATER shortage of priests given the amount of priests involved in homosexuality.

  • Patricius

     What about Pope Eugenius IV…some time before John Paul II ?

  • Alan

    I think this obsession with homosexuality, in both the Catholic and Anglican Church, is unfortunate.  The overwhelming majority of “sexual sin” is heterosexual: promiscuity, “one-night stands”, adultery, etc., are rampant throughout society, yet is largely overlooked in Church pronouncements.  Can we not get our priorities right?

  • http://cumlazaro.blogspot.com/ Lazarus

    There’s no question but that the rejected and despised are as much God’s children as anyone else. This isn’t about rejecting anyone, but it is about how Christ’s love is shown to people: by encouraging them to oppose divine teaching or by encouraging them to follow it.

    So, tell us. Were you encouraged to engage in that struggle to live a holy chaste life at the Soho masses? Or were you encouraged to think that the Church’s teachings are going to be replaced quite soon and anyway no one needs to take them seriously?

  • JabbaPapa

    Just as soon as our politicians do.

  • JabbaPapa

    You are very confused.

  • JabbaPapa

    Total pole-dancing codswallop.

  • JabbaPapa

    Yes, there is a revoltingly bad 19th century English translation of that document in wide circulation among the traditionalists and conservatives.

    The document actually teaches that Salvation will normally lead one to become subject to the Bishop of Rome in religious matters, via one’s conversion to Catholicism.

    That 19th century translation puts the cart before the horse.

  • Danny

    Only God has a window into peoples souls; I refer you to Vatican Council ll.

  • Danny

    First what did Jesus mean by “Sin no more” Secondly He said it to the Woman, by the way were was the MAN? If a person, no matter what their sexuality is, uses another person just to satisfy their needs, hurts that person. Thirdly, to denies a persons sexuality is a gift from God, is to pervert God’s creation.  Most important Jesus was not overly concerned about SEX, His one concern was to teach and show how much GOD LOVES US ALL.

  • Charles Hooton

    I totally agree with you and, in practice, gay men in relationships are welcome at most masses. I have never hidden my sexuality (or my partner) from the priests and congregations in the parishes where I have lived. I have never encountered a problem with homophobia.

    I converted to Catholicism in London 25 years ago. Cardinal Hume knew of my orientation and my partner but I received his personal blessing. Though he couldn’t say so publicly he certainly had no problems with gay men in monogomous relationships.

    If only the present Archbishop had his compassion.

  • http://ccfather.blogspot.co.uk/ Ben Trovato

    By ‘sin no more’ He meant that in order to be able to accept God’s healing love, the woman taken in adultery had to refrain from further adultery. 

    ‘To deny a person’s sexuality… is to pervert God’s creation.’ This takes no account of the Fall.  We are not born perfect, but under the influence of sin and the effects of sin.  Thus, God does not directly will that a baby is born with a defect that means he or she will have a short and painful life: that is the result of evil in creation, given a foothold by Adam’s sin.  The same is true of disordered sexuality: it is allowed by God’s permissive will, but that does not mean that it is part of His Divine Plan.  The important thing for us is how we respond: by accepting His grace and living in accordance with His will for us, which is true love; or by clinging to our own desires, disordered though they be.

    Finally, of course Our Lord was not overly concerned with sex; He was duly concerned however, and set a high standards: whoever looks at a woman with lust in his heart has already committed adultery with her in his heart; what God has joined together let not man put asunder; and so on. Sexual licence was no part of His message – quite the contrary.

  • Charles Hooton

    I converted to Catholicism in London 25 years ago. Cardinal Hume knew of my orientation and met my partner but I received his personal blessing. Though he couldn’t say so publicly he certainly had no problems with gay men in monogomous relationships.

    If only the present Archbishop had his compassion.

  • Danny

    Jesus never rejected anyone, particularly women, He taught people about God’s Infinite Love for all creation, He healed the Roman Centurions servant, for a Centurion to go to a foreign healer means he loved the man.   I would be interested in knowing were the Divine teaching condemns same sex love.   Please don’t refer me to the old testament  were a father can sell his daughter as a slave, or a son can be stoned to death for disobeying his father.   I will point out that chastity is a gift not given to many people.   As for thinking about church teaching, I also remember the teaching of Vatican Council 11.

  • JabbaPapa

    I converted to Catholicism in London 25 years ago.

    Congratulations !!!

  • Danny

    Have you ever thought, why was the woman taken in adultery?  Do you really believe in Adam and the fall?  True we are not born perfect, we are babies; and there is no EVIL in creation, creation is the work of God, there is not evil in God; nor is there disorder in sexuality, heterosexuality  homosexuality and bisexuality is found not only in humankind but also in the animal kingdom.   Please understand who wrote the bible, why it was written, and the people who wrote it.

  • JabbaPapa

     … in the same vein, why anyone should expect *any* church service to be widely attended in the morning of Dec 24th rather than the evening or on the 25th itself is a bit of a puzzler …

  • Charles_DH

    I am a gay man who converted to Catholicism in London 25 years ago. Cardinal Hume knew of my sexual orientation at the time, met my partner and I received his personal blessing.

    Though he couldn’t say so publicly he certainly had no problems with gay men in monogamous relationships receiving the sacrament at mass.

    If only the present Archbishop possessed his compassion and wisdom.

  • Kevin

    And what did Zacchaeus the tax collector do after Our Lord visited his house?

  • teigitur

    Well exactly.

  • Nat_ons

    The ‘Gays’ are our sisters and brothers in Christ; their sins like our own are propitiated in him. Sadly the spirit of spite, hostility and fear are common enough a human trait to be seen even in one’s own heart .. if one looks therein with honesty. 

    Nonetheless, I rejoice that the the wonderful witness of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham has finally been accorded a public example of generous welcome by Westminster, and that the Catholics who live with an attraction to their own gender – and who generously witness to Christ with their whole lives – are not to be shunned or abandoned, but – again finally – to be afforded a secure pastoral home.I know little of the Jesuits at Farm Street personally, but I trust they will not be among those in that Order who offer ersatz morality and cafeteria Catholicism – a loving welcome and a love of the Faith will work well; one of their Links – Independent Catholic News – at first sight filled me with trepidation for the good care of these souls, but thankfully (and blessings to it) this seems orthodox and even faithful to God’s beloved called to be saints at Rome (not least toward the Holy Father).http://www.indcatholicnews.com/

  • Charles

     If warning my friends of possible scapegoating against them is homophobic then you are an anti Catholic bigot and should have your head examined for Christophobia.

  • http://ccfather.blogspot.co.uk/ Ben Trovato

    I refer you to the Catechism of the Catholic Church on Original Sin. (§385 ff)  If you do not believe in the Fall, you are in formal heresy. (cf §390).

    ‘Ignorance of the fact that man has a wounded nature inclined to evil gives rise to serious errors in the areas of education, politics, social action and morals.’ (§407)

  • Inquisator

    Running to the bunker while firmly fixing my steel helmet; awaiting the first artillery barrage!!!!

  • mrsjosephinehydehartley

    Thanks.But let’s not get the woman of Samaria mixed up with the aldulteress, the one who Jesus saved from being stonied. To do so woud be a terribly fallacious affectation – even impertinent – the sort of dogma that spoils all our works and lives.

  • Patrickjkgray

    I pray not. I rather doubt the Cardinal said such a thing, but, if he did, then what he said was heretical and quite wrong. In the eyes of Holy Church, sodomy is a mortal sin. A mortal sin. Our Lady will help you. Pray to be made pure. I will pray a decade for you.

  • Adrian Johnson

    It is by no means a given that  that the Anglican tradition is “best served with a medieval gothic church”.  The earliest English churches pre-dated gothic architecture; English Romanesque (“Norman”) typified by Durham Cathedral is a far more vernacular expression of ancient, organic  English Catholicism.  It is most appropriate that this church granted to the English Ordinariate is dedidicated both to Our Lady and to St Gregory, the Pope who sent St Augustine, England’s first bishop, to evangelize the pagan Angles. 

    A long time was spent deciding on this church as suitable for the Ordinariate. Do not expect that this church is only temporary and will be superceded.  This is the mother Church of the Ordinariate, and will remain so until England as a whole is restored to the ancient and true Faith.      

  • Charles

     Your name-calling degrades you to a non rational prejudiced individual. The only phobia here is your fear of rational discussion. I do not condemn you, your bad manners condemns you.

  • http://cumlazaro.blogspot.com/ Lazarus

    You haven’t answered my question about what the Soho masses encouraged you to do: follow the Church’s teachings or not. (But I guess that really does answer my question.)

    On divine teaching, see the Catechism: (2357). ‘Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.’ 

     http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

    I’m not sure why you’re bringing up irrelevant snippets from the Old Testament. As you’ll be aware as a Catholic, the Church’s teaching in this area is based primarily on the natural law. As to Vatican II, I ca’t think of any document that suggests homosexual activity is permissible. I can however think of Dignitatis Humanae (s.14):

    ‘In the formation of their consciences, the Christian faithful ought carefully to attend to the sacred and certain doctrine of the Church.(35) For the Church is, by the will of Christ, the teacher of the truth. It is her duty to give utterance to, and authoritatively to teach, that truth which is Christ Himself, and also to declare and confirm by her authority those principles of the moral order which have their origins in human nature itself. Furthermore, let Christians walk in wisdom in the face of those outside, “in the Holy Spirit, in unaffected love, in the word of truth” (2 Cor. 6:6-7), and let them be about their task of spreading the light of life with all confidence(36) and apostolic courage, even to the shedding of their blood.’

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651207_dignitatis-humanae_en.html

    We all have our struggles in life and I have no wish to attack you personally. But you are pronouncing with supreme confidence about the wrongness of Church teaching whilst making it clear that a) you are entirely overlooking the scriptural evidence that Christ came to judge as part of his loving care for human beings; and b) the authoritative role of  the Church in promulgating both revelation and natural law. Surely you realize that your conscience cannot be properly formed in the absence of such a basic understanding of Catholic teaching?

  • JabbaPapa

    *** is a mortal sin

    So is spreading nasty rumours about people ; and in the absence of evidence, to do so is to directly break the Ninth Commandment “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour”, which is a far worse sin than the one that you are denouncing, given that it disobeys a direct Commandment from God — and particularly given that sexual teachings of the Church make clear that in very many cases sodomy (like several other sexual sins) is a venial sin only.

    Furthermore, NOT all homosexuals practice sodomy, as has been pointed out to me by one of them in a similar thread elsewhere.

    Hope that helps, and God bless you.

  • Vince Lungley

    I would respectfully remind you that to refer to ‘the gays’ is directly against the instruction of the church and is underlined in the letter from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith in 1986 and was re-inforced in the statement from the Diocese of Westminster on 2 January.

    Your use of ‘the gays’ is no different to use of ‘the blacks’ and is offensive.

    And to suggest violence or attack? I’m sorry – but this is inflammatory nonsense and wholly inappropriate as part of debate here. I don’t detect any anger in the response from the Soho masses response

  • DragonbearEssex

    What’s that I hear? Ah! A nail being hit on the head!

  • Burt

    Danny the only hat any of us should be after is our crown in Heaven. To die in a state of mortal sin means we will spend ETERNITY in Hell. Our shepherds have the duty to ensure as many men and women as possible realise this and do their utmost to avoid such a fate. Sodomy is a mortal sin, whether committed with same or opposite sex to oneself.