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‘Government cannot protect teachers from the sack, if they refuse to teach same-sex marriage’

By on Friday, 25 January 2013

Michael Gove                Photo: PA

Michael Gove Photo: PA

The Education Secretary has expressed fears that the Government will be powerless to prevent primary school teachers from being sacked, if they refuse to teach children about gay marriage.

According to a report in the Daily Telegraph, a senior source in Michael Gove’s department said that the UK was not “in control” and any final decisions might inevitably rest with the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.

The Government’s bill on same-sex marriage was published today and will be debated in the House of Commons on February 5.

But equalities minister, Maria Miller, has tried to reassure teachers that their jobs will not be under threat once the bill has passed.

She told the Today programme on Radio 4: “Look, teachers are able to and entitled to express their views about same-sex marriage and there’s no requirement at all for them to promote it but, obviously, we wouldn’t expect teachers to be offensive or discriminate in any way about anybody.”

She continued: “I think it’s important to say that in the context of talking about religious belief, perhaps in a church school that, there are different views on these matters, that there are views that marriage is between a man and a woman, particularly when it comes to, say, the Church of England, the Catholic church or the Church in Wales.

“You think you always expect our teachers to teach in a balanced way and nothing changed in that respect, but, obviously, it’s important that children do know that there are different beliefs within different religious faiths.”

  • Nick

    The courts don’t ask them to – its an option. Its just that some people want to.

    And would these be the same courts that find in favour of equality for gay people and against christian bigotry EVERY SINGLE TIME?

  • Nick

    You knew what’d I’d say but you cannot in any way refute it!

  • Nick

    The fact you seem to object to people who disagree with you airing their views is very telling!!

  • Nick

    “Hands of our children” – Did you say that to the priests when they were buggering your children senseless?

  • whytheworldisending

    The Bill has not been debated yet. The first reading simply sets the date for the first debate, which is 5th February. When it is debated, all decent people will see whether their MP is on the list of those supporting this piece of paper. They will take note and vote accordingly. Thi sis Labour’s big chance to get back in touch with ordinary British people, and secure victory at the next election – WITHOUT CLEGG’S HELP.

  • Paul

    I did refute it, but my comment was removed.  Your brand of nonsense seems to be more acceptable on this page.  Congratulations.

  • Deacon_Augustine

    The real bigotry is from those who want to make it possible to exclude members of the opposite sex from marriage.

  • Nick

    Everyone can see already whether their MP supports it – here! http://www.c4em.org.uk/support-for-equal-marriage/
    And there is massive support for the bill.But I agree this is Labour’s big chance and I’m sure they will reconnect with the British people as just about every single Labour MP (with the exception of about 10) have said they support equal marriage and will vote for the bill.

  • Nick

    But we live in a representative democracy, not a theocracy – the bible is totally irrelevant to how we live our lives.

  • Nick

    Sin only exists if you believe in the bible – most people don’t.
    And most people don’t believe in the rantings of sex obsessed virgins in frocks who seem to think there is a man in the sky who has nothing better to do than monitor and disapprove of the sex lives of the worlds 67 billion population.

  • Nick

    So you have no doubt it will go through – and why will it go through do you think?
    You are wrong in that you WILL HAVE TO accept it – it will be the law.
    In exactly the same way that you HAVE TO accept abortion – it is also the law.
    You will have no choice but to accept it, as civilised society accepts it. Problem of course is that the Catholic church isn’t civilised.
    Still if you and your like want to keep ending up in court and on the wrong side of the law, that’s your problem!

  • Nick

    And why do you think that? Do you not believe in equality and think gay people should be discriminated against?

  • Nick

    You did refute it but your comment was removed – ahahaha – what does that tell you?
    That even the Catholic Herald believes you to be a discriminating bigot perhaps? Congratulations.

  • Esteban

    Unless They are offensive or DISCRIMINATE IN ANY WAY’ , Depends how that is defined and I think that it will be defined to exclude anyone who shows disapproval in any way.

  • mikethelionheart

    Nick
    You sound like a very hate filled and bigoted person.Perhaps you’d feel more at home on the Guardian website.

  • Maccabeus

    Everyone who disagrees with you is bigoted, bigoted, bigoted, bigoted, bigoted, bigoted, bigoted, bigoted… yawn, yawn, blah, blah, blah, boo-hoo-hoo. Get a grip and get a life.

  • Johnsoncairo

    It might be worth supporting teachers for a change. However, I think as a teacher I can see the writing on the wall- not a career that will see me out until retirement.

  • whytheworldisending

    Sodomites infiltrate all walks of life. The Church teaches that it is evil, but atheists and sodomites managed to infiltrate the institution. Now they have infiltrated the 3 main political parties, who want to teach children that there is nothing wrong with it. What is there to disagree about? The gaytheists, think that sodomy isn’t wrong, so they hate the Church for teaching the truth. As for ordinary decent people, what’s there to disagree about?

  • Paul

    No Nick.  It proves the point to a T.  Even on a Catholic discussion board I am not free to tell the truth from the word of God about homosexual activity.  And you are trying to sell people the delusion that teachers will be free to do so in class?
      Wake up. 

  • Paul

    If you think the word of God is fairy stories, then you are in for a rude awakening.  Its prophecies always come true.

  • Paul

    Thanks a lot Nick, but with respect, you are not my chosen authority on Evangelical Christianity.

  • whytheworldisending

    That’s like saying car crashes only exist of you believe the Highway Code. There are rules, and consequences for those who disregard the rules. this is true for the entire Universe. Whether you believe God made the Universe or not, you are subject to the rules. If you disregard the Highway Code, and drive on the wrong side of the road, you will come to grief, and cause suffering to innocent people. There are people entrusted with the task of ensuring that you don’t do this. The way they dress has nothing to do with it, but one thing is noticeable. The bad drivers are usually the arrogant, bad-mannered people who feel that they are so special that the rules shouldn’t apply to them. This is nothing new. Adam and Eve had the same problem. It is called Hubris, and leads to sin – mistakes born out of stupid pride. We are all creations, and the only right attitude is humility. This is the beginning of  wisdom, but the fool has said in his heart that there is no God. Hence the Pride, hence the sin, and hence the consequences (for which, just look around you).

  • Paul

    Funny fellow.

  • Paul

    The word of God is always fulfilled, whether you believe in it or not.  that seems to be where you are missing it Nick.

  • Paul

    The Bible is the word of God.  It is totally relevant to how we live our lives.

  • Paul

    How exactly do you make 60% a ‘minority?’

  • whytheworldisending

    You appear to be exaggerating. I don’t know how reliable the website you offered is, but even assuming for arguments sake that it is 100% reliable, the figures it states that 51.7% of MP’s are “LIKELY to vote in favour of gay marriage.” Even if 51.7% were SURE to vote in favour your confidence would be misplaced, since 1,7% is a very small margin indeed to go into debate with, but “likely” means that all 51.7% can change their minds. That is of course what the debate is for. And remember I don’t have a clue why I should believe these figures - a sthey are posted by the “Coalition for Equal Marriage,” they can’t exactly be regarded as independent or impartial.

    If that is the best that the pro-gaytheist lobby can come up with, I’d say the Bill is going to be in serious trouble once the debate kicks off. Thanks for that.  

  • Paul

    Nick, if it was as normal and as valid as an opposite sex one, God would have given us all two sets of reproductive organs and the ability to choose which one we want to use.
       But he didn’t.