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Pray that we don’t become an ‘ideological church’, says Pope

By on Monday, 24 June 2013

Pope Francis has hailed the example of St John the Baptist (AP)

Pope Francis has hailed the example of St John the Baptist (AP)

We must pray “for the grace not to become an ideological church”, Pope Francis said at Mass this morning.

Reflecting on the life of St John the Baptist, whose solemnity is observed today, the Pope said the Church’s duty was to hear the Word of Jesus and proclaim it boldly.

“That,” he said, “is the Church without ideologies, without a life of its own: the Church which is the mysterium lunae, which has light from her Bridegroom and diminish herself so that He may grow.”

According to Vatican Radio, he added: “This is the model that John offers us today, for us and for the Church. A Church that is always at the service of the Word. A Church that never takes anything for herself. Today in prayer we asked for the grace of joy, we asked the Lord to cheer this Church in her service to the Word, to be the voice of this Word, preach this Word. We ask for the grace, the dignity of John, with no ideas of their own, without a Gospel taken as property, only one Church that indicates the Word, and this even to martyrdom. So be it!”

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Pontifical Council for Culture, concelebrated the Mass in the chapel of the papal residence, the Domus Sanctae Marthae.

Priests and collaborators of the Pontifical Council, a group of employees of the Pontifical Commission for Sacred Archaeology and a delegation from the Vatican’s Philatelic and Numismatic Office were also present.

  • Tom_mcewen

    Well, I thank Paulpriest and Jabba and Carter, I got something out of it, but the teaching must also be for the simple like me. I am not a follower of Kant, nor am I a Jesuit. So I will think of it and hope for grace.

  • AlanP

    Socialism is used in different meanings: soviet-style communism (opposed by the Church), social democracy (e.g. The British Labour Party, traditionally supported by most Catholic voters), and, in the U.S., anything vaguely thought to challenge free-market ideology. So you have to define your terms.

  • AlanP

    Really? What anti-Christian position have I embraced?

  • Jon Brownridge

    The thing is, arguments are either valid or invalid, and statements (premises) are either true or false. There are no false arguments and no invalid premises. That is rather basic in a philosophical context.

  • Julian Lord


  • Jon Brownridge

    Meaning what?

  • Julian Lord

    … meaning that you’ve written some specious gobbledigook based on some intrinsically false logic.

    Your own argument is false, and the premises that it is based on are invalid. An antiphrastic statement is inherently invalidated by its own expression.

    Viz. “This statement is a lie” passim.

  • Jon Brownridge

    Good thing I have such respect for your point of view, Jabba…But I think you would be hard pressed to find a philosopher who would disagree with my statement above in answer to paulpriest.

  • Jon Brownridge

    Jabba – the word “sententious” comes to mind when I read your response to Steve K.

  • Jackie Mackay

    James Tom, Benedict
    ideology per se is dry. Pope Francis has been speaking of humanity and the individual dignity of human beings – God’s children or sheep. I understand we prefer to think of ourselves as unique beings instead. The Pope has been talking of heart and being creatures of the Light. A church of ideology devoid of love is unthinkable.

    Archbishop of Canterbury Welby described Pope Francis as “A man on fire with the Spirit of Christ.” You need not be a theologist to know what that means.

    To learn how to live in harmony with each other rather than at war is our current challenge and Pope Francis wrote to the Prime Minister of UK, the President of the G8 asking him to have the courage to lead the conference towards a long standing cease fire in Syria.

    It goes on. Where love and heart is in humanity there grows optimism and strength to follow the golden thread of the Law. It is the same where there is love and heart in the Catholic Church.

    Jackie Mackay

  • Julian Lord

    you would be hard pressed to find a philosopher who would disagree with my statement above

    The only reason for this is because the great majority of philosophers have been corrupted in their thinking by the falsehoods of relativism, modernism, and nihilism.

  • Jim

    The Church is not an ideology just as a person is not an ideology. We misunderstand the Church if we thing it is an organization based on a collection of good ideas. To love the Church is to love Christ and to love Christ is to love God. Our baptism makes us participants in a life that is no longer our own but that of Christ’s. The Church is the Body of Christ, not figuratively but literally.

  • Keith Saylor

    “I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.” Gal. 2:20.

    Pope’s message to me was a reminder that ideologies and/or worldviews
    as with thoughts, emotions, desires, etc. are abstractions. The extent
    to which we identify with these abstractions is the extent to which we
    are distracted. In Christ their are no ideologies. In Christ we are free
    from ideological bondage. The observation, knowledge, and experience of
    Being in Christ is the experience of consciousness no longer dependent
    on the body (the five senses) to exist. In Christ we experience being
    without the need for predication … I am. The Church and individuals
    without ideologies lives and acts in Christ without ideological
    dependency which is idolatry.