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Canonisation date for John Paul II and John XXIII to be revealed in September

By on Wednesday, 21 August 2013

Blessed John Paul II (Photo: CNS)

Blessed John Paul II (Photo: CNS)

Pope Francis will host a meeting of cardinals on September 30 to formally approve the canonisation of Blesseds John Paul II and John XXIII; the date for the canonisation will be announced at that time, said Cardinal Angelo Amato, prefect of the Congregation for Saints’ Causes.

The cardinal told Vatican Radio that only Pope Francis knows for sure the date he will proclaim the two former popes saints, although he suggested that the canonisations are likely to take place in 2014.

Speaking to reporters traveling with him from Brazil to Rome after World Youth Day last month, Pope Francis said one possible date for the canonisation is April 27, the Sunday after Easter and the celebration of Divine Mercy Sunday, a celebration instituted worldwide by John Paul II.

Asked to describe the two late popes, Pope Francis said Blessed John was “a bit of the ‘country priest,’ a priest who loves each of the faithful and knows how to care for them; he did this as a bishop and as a nuncio.”

He was holy, patient, had a good sense of humor and, especially by calling the Second Vatican Council, was a man of courage, Pope Francis added. “He was a man who let himself be guided by the Lord.”

As for Blessed John Paul, Pope Francis said: “I think of him as ‘the great missionary of the church’,” because he was “a man who proclaimed the Gospel everywhere.”

Pope Francis signed a decree recognising the miracle needed for Blessed John Paul’s canonisation on July 5; the same day, the Vatican announced that the Pope had agreed with the cardinal members of the Congregation for Saints’ Causes that the canonisation of Blessed John should go forward even without a second miracle attributed to his intercession.

Before declaring new saints, the Pope consults with cardinals around the world and calls a consistory – a gathering attended by any cardinal who wants and is able to attend – where those present voice their support for the Pope’s decision. A date for a canonisation ceremony is announced formally only during or immediately after the consistory.

  • Eileen Roche

    What miracle is attributed to the Popes ??

  • Timotheus Cambrensis

    The unseemly haste in canonizing Pope John Paul does not inspire confidence in the current procedure for causes of saints. I think the Holy See needs to bring back the “Devil’s advocate”.

  • NatOns

    Living saintliness itself, I guess; a more wondrous sign of witness to Christ in today’s world is hardly more appropriate for those to be elevated as worthily recalled at His Altar – moreover, we could all perceive it, and share in it, or be touched by grace through it (according to our own disposition toward divine favour, of course).

  • NatOns

    Funnily enough, while I agree the haste is odd (in comparison say to the undoubted sanctity of Ven. Pius XII), yet it is not for want of the Accuser’s advocacy to the contrary .. the role of Devil’s Advocate has been subsumed in not dismissed from the whole advocatory process (very properly, it is still a ‘reporter’ sic who does the job).

    http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=292394&Pg&Pgnu&recnu

  • Burt

    Neither should be canonised . What good has come from their decisions? Pope John directly caused the wreckage of Chist’s Church when it was at it’s peak. So many would be Catholics have not even had a chance to know their faith because of his decisions. If my kid’s, not one of them consider themselves Catholic, go to Hell, it is very likely to be a direct result of Pope John XXIII’s decision. His inclination for ‘aggiornamento’, compromising the Catholic culture to the Non-Catholic lack of culture. He was either a failure for his bad decisions, or a a successful worker for the other side. Even if he has got to Heaven by God’s mercy, he is no man deserving of canonization. His historic decision has surely caused the damnation of many many souls.

  • Jeb

    Yah right, why not also blame on the chickens and birds for Avian viral influenza as well? Your accussations were much like the Protestants blaming the Catholic Church for bringing the anti-Christ and apostasy, tired-old story.

  • meg

    Burt , why worry if your kids go to hell when they must be living in one now with you as a crazed absolutist rather than a compassionate father. John XXIII was a great man and a great pope who was in the throes of SAVING the future of the Church when he was taken from us all too soon. That the Church’s survival has regressed since his parting is testimony to this. The filthy rotten behaviour of those who tell other good folk how to live nad the even worse behaviour from those who harboured such criminals is squarely to blame for the DEMISE of the Church, not loving nad genuine creatures such as John XXIII and our current Pope Francis. It Is delusional people Like you who cant accept the reality of the Church’s own crimes and fallability that make us a laughing stock amongst the majority nad do nothing to help retain the few bums on pews left to finance the priests’ lifestyles from contations to the collection plates.

  • meg

    Maybe Pope John’s biggest miracle is reincarnating himself in Pope Francis, when the Church AND the world never needed him more than now!

  • Athanasius

    You are perfectly correct when you write that John XXIII was ‘a successful worker for the other side’. The Conclave that elected him was hijacked. When the white smoke went up initially, it was for the election of Cardinal Giuseppi Siri, but he was immediately forced to resign by the powers of judaeo-masonry, and the world was lied to and told that the white smoke was all a mistake!

    Roncalli wasn’t even a Catholic. First of all he was an out-and-out modernist, and as we know the sin of heresy cuts one off from Christ’s Church completely, and secondly he was a Rosicrucian freemason, an automatically excommunicable offence. His job was to give the red hat to Montini (which Pope Pius XII had adamantly refused) and to call an antiCouncil which would replace Catholic teaching with Masonic universalism.

    Those same judaeo-masonic powers now want to ‘canonize’ their ‘good pope John XXIII’, but in doing so they will only add to his insufferable torments in the fires of Hell. For these rage even more intensely when one’s evil deeds are posthumously celebrated by a delusional world.

  • James M

    So why the kerfuffle now ?

  • James M

    http://www.christianforums.com/t1859671/ – has an interesting discussion of the Pact of Metz, by which The Papacy was prevailed upon: (1) not to condemn Communism & the forthcoming Council; (2) never to condemn it in future.

    J23 betrayed the Church of Silence – he is an accomplice to the martyrdom of thousands.

    ““The salient and half secret point that should be noted,” [Professor Romano Amerio] stated, “is the restriction on the Council’s liberty to which John XXIII had agreed a few months earlier, in making an accord with the Orthodox Church by which the patriarchate of Moscow accepted the papal invitation to send observers to the Council, while the Pope for his part guaranteed the Council would refrain from condemning Communism. The negotiations took place at Metz in August 1962, and all the details of time and place were given at a press conference by Mgr. Paul Joseph Schmitt, the Bishop of that Diocese [newspaper Le Lorrain, 2/9/63]. The negotiations ended in an agreement signed by metropolitan Nikodim for the Orthodox Church and Cardinal Tisserant, the Dean of the Sacred College of Cardinals, for the Holy See….”

    http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/a007ht.htm

    If the Council was not free to deliberate and to act according as the needs of the Church required, then its validity and its authority become very doubtful, to say the least.

  • Jon Brownridge

    You might feel more comfortable as a fundamentalist in the American deep south. What are you doing in a Catholic Church you don’t understand?

  • Eileen Roche

    How can you become a saint when you knew all along that children were being abused and did nothing to stop it.

  • Mutuluuza Peter,

    You should bear in mind that those two have already performed miracles and that is why the Church through the Pope has decided to canonise them! You should not judge.

  • Eileen Roche

    The miracles…..yes, they managed to stay out of prison for what they turned a blind eye to for many years. I do not need to judge, I have a relation and friends who suffered at their hands. Servants of God they are not, They abused the words ” Suffer little children to come unto me “

  • Sarah

    Pope Benedict showed vested favoritism towards JP II by not giving the usual 5 years for the canonization process to begin. He tried to bend the law when needed having been influenced my his interest group in the curia, he was Intellectual but inefficient. Wrong choice for the papacy.

  • Sarah

    Common guys grow up- the miracles are fake. Let them accept British doctors to verify them- not doctors and cardinals from within Vatican!

  • Seguidora

    Athanasius

    This is typical conspiracy theory stuff from the fundamentalist wing of the Catholic Church. What gives you the right to decide that anyone is suffering in the fires of Hell?

    Why are Catholic Traditionalists and fundamentalists so arrogant?

  • Simon James Perry

    Funny, some people are very critical of John XXIII not speaking out against communism. However, the same people fail to criticise Pius XII for deciding not to speak out against the Nazis. I think both of these men had their reasons.